Ok, but in order to make a movie there must be a script or some knowledge of how it will proceed to its desired end. In other words there was knowledge before hand so that the movie will be made (determining) in the likeness of His foreknowledge.
I realize the analogy was probably a poor one (I would have used it to - but we are not actors play out our predetermind parts decided upon by the creator of the story) But not matter what analogy we use it will always hold to knowing something before it is done.
However, the fact we don't know How God knows anything makes all that we state here in merely guess work.
All we know is that God foreknew then predestined.
So ALMOST all views concerning what and how God knew are ONLY speculation and nothing more. Therefore all speculation will be done according to our theological bent(s) but should not be held as TRUTH in our theology but a view of that Truth.
Ok Allen.
I think I know what you said, but i'm not sure you know what you think you said......lol.
Just trying to lighten up a bit.
Yeah, the Bible is truth... and we can speculate all day long.
I believe from the 139 verse, that all things are decreed by God, for God, and His glory.
It is not based upon what He forsaw men would do.... to me that is man centered theology... of which we have way too much of today.
I love God centered theology.
I'm sure you do too.
Grace and peace
I agree it was good and would truly enjoy picking it back up.
:thumbsup:
Also James:
I would not say that God CONTROLS man in the sense that man is but a puppet on a string (not that you said such but I am clarifying my meaning) but that man will 'choose' to do that which God desires.
God uses differing means to bring forth the desired results in stead of direct control, as in the scripture above - God used fear in such a way that the nations around Judah choose to not war with them, but this choice was one in accordance with Gods will and mans decision.
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Was Mans the freedom to choose withheld and therefore violated with regard to Gods intervention?
Was Gods Sovereignty impuned with Man allowed to choose what they will do?
The answer to both is...No.
Hey Bro Bob, You're still young!
I'd stay out of cold creeks though and not tempt providence!
God does expect us to be good stewards of what He has given to us!