I attended a funeral for a man today that got me thinking. Many times you hear the preacher make a statement about how the person who just recently passed away is reunited with his or her spouse, etc, etc.
What chapter and verse is this based on? Will I still know my wife as my wife when we die and go to heaven? I have never really thought about it until today.
Funeral Theology
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Shortandy, Jul 13, 2009.
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The funeral is for the living, not the dead. Words of comfort are always in order for one who is grieving.
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I agree with MP. But we do get some bad theology in funerals. About the husband wife thing, Jesus certainly said the dynamic of the relationship would change in Matthew 22:30 - "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven."
I don't know what that involves. But on the mountain at the transfiguration, Peter, James and John knew Moses and Elijah. (Matthew 17). So I can imagine we'll know each other. I'd hate that if we were all strangers throughout eternity. :laugh: -
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I am not certain we can compare the transfiguration figures with heavenly bodies. Throughout scripture we have a number of "resurrection" incidents, but they hardly indicate what the final resurrection will be. We can only guess, fabricate and suggest what we will appear. There is nothing definitive in scripture about our final state. Scripture speaks of roads paved with gold. Do you for one minute believe that heavenly road will literally be paved in gold?
Cheers,
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Something to look forward to :jesus:. -
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Knowing our spouses differently after the Lord returns has nothing to do with sin. Adam and eve knew each other before sin in the same way we do now. It is clear we will know each other but it seems to me our focus will be on the Lord rather than ourselves.
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Looking Down On Us?
Many times during funerals, I have heard the minister say that the deceased is looking down on us now. I know of no scripture to support that. -
Bro. Curtis <img src =/curtis.gif>Site Supporter
I attended a funeral about a year and a half ago, and I know the person in the casket was not saved.
The Baptist preacher said about him....and I paraphrase......
"I don't know where Billy is today, but I am sure where ever he is, if he could talk to us, he would encourage us to know Jesus Christ". -
Drfuss, I fear that many perceive heaven to by up rather than beyond. It is just beyond the fingertips of flesh....out there.....Hence, all the folks who speak of looking down on us.
Cheers,
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I always tell my wifey
BabyDoll-------if you go on to Glory before I do-------and then I come sometime later and see you there-------goodness sake---act like you know me-------OK?????
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Jedi Knight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I was upset once at a pastor who said at my grandfather funeral that"he is with the Lord now",but he never knew him from Adam. My grandfather NEVER attended church or care for the things of God and I think that's just as bad as saying He's in Hell. If ya don't know for sure about someone's spiritual condition don't presume in front of family members just for the sake of comfort. :tear:
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They knew instantly that it was Moses and Elijah, though. I'm wondering if Moses didn't have a staff in his hand and Elijah wasn't standing in a chariot....it is all pure speculation, but keep this in mind:
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Uh... yeah.. the Bible says so... Why the unbelief? -
preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Funerals are amazing times to encourage and bring people to hearing more from the Holy Spirit.
As for Heaven and being married, I have no clue...its a personal preference. I hope I know my wife, I hope I am bonded with my wife in a different and more complete way than here...but I have basis for that hope.
When I do funerals I try to speak to people and their situation, not romaticize the after life.:saint: -
"Dude!! Streets paved with gold!!"
I believe the passage both literally and symbolically
Literal streets of gold------you betcha!!
Now------think about this
We think of gold as something of value-----whats the current value of gold-------about $965.00/oz???? Close enough!!!!
But the passage is there to lead us to believe that----the streets of gold is NOT what makes Heaven valuable---we pave our streets down here with the most invaluable materials known---asphalt and concrete---at about $80/cu.yd
In Heaven---the gold is NOT a valuable substance-------rather---YOU are!!! YOU are what makes Heaven valuable to the Lord Jesus!!! -
In the 35 years I have been preaching, I have never preached the funeral of a lost man!
Disclaimer: As far as the family is concerned.
The deceased may have been a reprobate, but when he is dead, somehow, someway, it seems the family remembers that he at one time was a Christian....church member....good man, etc. Yikes!!
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