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Global warming -- the great delusion

mandym

New Member
In his resignation letter to APS, Giaever lambasted the society’s public stance that global warming is an incontrovertible fact:

“In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible? The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this ‘warming’ period.”

And recently in the Wall Street Journal 16 prominent scientists, including physicists, meteorologists and climatologists, came forward to express solidarity with Giaever, writing:

“…large numbers of scientists, many very prominent, share the opinions of Dr. Giaever. And the number of scientific “heretics” is growing with each passing year. The reason is a collection of stubborn scientific facts. Perhaps the most inconvenient fact is the lack of global warming for well over 10 years now. This is known to the warming establishment, as one can see from the 2009 “Climategate” email of climate scientist Kevin Trenberth: ‘The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.’”

So why do so many still cling to the hope of climate change catastrophe? The scientists offer their own view in the Journal:

“Alarmism over climate is of great benefit to many, providing government funding for academic research and a reason for government bureaucracies to grow.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/02/17/global-warming-great-delusion/#ixzz1mfd4sms9
 

Arbo

Active Member
Site Supporter
So why do so many still cling to the hope of climate change catastrophe? The scientists offer their own view in the Journal:

“Alarmism over climate is of great benefit to many, providing government funding for academic research and a reason for government bureaucracies to grow.”


As they say, follow the money.
 

HankD

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
So why do so many still cling to the hope of climate change catastrophe? The scientists offer their own view in the Journal:

“Alarmism over climate is of great benefit to many, providing government funding for academic research and a reason for government bureaucracies to grow.”

As they say, follow the money.

Don't forget "Cap and Trade" AKA "The tax on thin air" coming to America.
Australia has defeated attempts (so far) to pass the aussie version:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/08/17/a_tax_on_thin_air_97917.html

Trillions-Billions-Millions to be collected on a tax of our "carbon emissions".

If "global warming" is mankind's fault because of carbon emissions through the burning of fossil fuels for electricity, heating and transportation etc. then according to Al Gore and devotees we must be taxed for our sins against mother earth.

Each according to our "carbon footprint".

Calculate yours at:

http://www.carbonfootprint.com/carbonfootprint.html


HankD
 
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billwald

New Member
How many "500" year events have you had in your state in the last half dozen years? I think Washington has had at least 3 or 4.
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
Administrator
How many "500" year events have you had in your state in the last half dozen years? I think Washington has had at least 3 or 4.
Think about it for a minute, Bill. Why are there "500 year events?"

Because the solar cycle covers an 1100 year period varying between no sunspots per year during one of the minimums of the cycle and over 50,000 sun spots during one of the maximums of the cycle.

The warming and cooling of the earth is cyclical due to the variable temperature of the sun.

Global warming/cooling is a natural cycle that repeats every 1100 years.

As to the events over "the last half dozen years" you are aware, are you not, that global temperatures ceased rising in the year 2000? :)
 

NiteShift

New Member
Coal is here to stay, considering China relies on it for 70% of their energy use. In the US it is 40% I think. When you consider how much coal is being used, and that global temps have only risen .8 degree Kelvin over the last 150 years (OP) it seems we should be using every energy resource that we have, not just the politically correct ones :thumbs:
 

billwald

New Member
>Think about it for a minute, Bill. Why are there "500 year events?"

It is a number chosen to mean "unlikely" to most people seeing it. It is applied to most every sort of natural event that can be covered by insurance.
 

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
Administrator
>Think about it for a minute, Bill. Why are there "500 year events?"

It is a number chosen to mean "unlikely" to most people seeing it. It is applied to most every sort of natural event that can be covered by insurance.
You missed the point, Bill. The solar cycle covers 1100 years. Half of that is 550 years. At the top of the cycle we get warm weather phenomena of the 500 year type and at the bottom of that cycle we get cold weather phenomena of the 500 year type. The rest of the time we get milder weather typical of the middle portions of the cycle.
 
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