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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Hobie, Apr 10, 2021.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Saving grace only sent towards the Elect!
     
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  2. Yeshua1

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    Only the sheep hear his voice, not the goats!
     
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    An invitation isn't a demand it's the offer of a choice and you know it but you'll deny it in favor of false doctrines.
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    Absolute bull
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    I see no relevance at all in this comment..
     
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    Those who blind them selves with false doctrines can't see the truth.
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    God send saving grace towards the Goats?
     
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    You condemn yourself with your own words.
     
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    Since when is believing in Christ condemnation? Your judgement of me is with out authority. LOL You can't prove what you claim with scripture so now you condemn me for telling you the truth. This seems very hypocritical of you.
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    How much of our "free will" has been affected by the fall?
     
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    That is "no will".
    We have a "fallen will" until Christ frees us.
     
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    no scripture just your say so?
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    Where is the "you have "free will untainted by sin" scripture or the "we are mindless robots" scripture?
    Why do I earn such special treatment?

    (PS: Yes, there is scripture and I am surprised that you do not know that men have been tainted by the fall of Adam and our sin.) :Cool
     
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    All died in Ada in the Fall, so both spiritually and physically death!
     
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    Sounds like to me you talking about yourself friend.
     
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    You wrote:
    You judged yourself.
     
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    I have been to Ada, Michigan. People live there.
     
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    Don’t get sanctimonious with me, It is a “blasphemy” you don’t recognize 100% standard human is Jesus Christ.

    heres your choice. Full human = zero free will
    Jesus has no free will.

    has free will then obviously not human
     
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    The fact you argue against us having free will is solid proof you don’t believe your own story.

    suppose I truly believed. How would I possibly be upset when someone tells me the contrary?How can I fault them when they have no say where are authored by God fated by God To say what they are saying.

    If I had a problem with what they are saying I take it up with God rather than them who had no choice in the matter.
     
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    LOL, you seem oblivious to what the term "incarnation" means when God became man.

    As you have been often told:
    Adam had free will. Adam chose sin. The curse of the fall brought with it the incapacity of sinful, corrupt, human will to choose themselves back into perfect relationship with God. (If humans could...they would not need a Savior.)
    Jesus came into the earth as the 2nd Adam. He has no corruption in Him. He has free will to choose God (as a human) and fully obey God. Being fully God, he also has the capacity to Redeem everyone the Father has given to him.

    You cheapen Jesus and treat him as though he was a corrupt human made in your image.
     
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