1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Good Friday?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Zuno Yazh, Mar 19, 2018.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,821
    Likes Received:
    798
    The In the heart of the earth period starts at Jesus' incarceration, not his crucifixion. The giving over of Jesus began late Thursday night after sundown (the first part of Friday in Jewish thinking).

    Thursday night (incarceration) 1st night
    Friday day (crucifixion) 1st day
    Friday night (tomb) 2nd night
    Saturday day (tomb) 2nd day
    Saturday night (tomb) 3rd night
    Sunday day (tomb for a short time after sunrise) 3rd day

    3 days and nights all represented. Friday crucifixion.
     
    #101 Calminian, Apr 2, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2018
  2. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,821
    Likes Received:
    798
    Here's another article on this:

    Jesus, three days and three nights in the heart of the earth, not tomb

    Don't know why I didn't think of this before. Had always just assumed heart of the earth was akin to burial. But a word search for the phrase came up empty.

    This also brings much more clarity to the Sacrifice of our Lord. He took on our guilt at the moment he was betrayed into the hands of men.
     
  3. loDebar

    loDebar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2018
    Messages:
    2,913
    Likes Received:
    94
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Mat 12:40

    For as Jonas was three days and three nights in thewhale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
     
  4. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,821
    Likes Received:
    798
    The In the heart of the earth period starts at Jesus' incarceration, not his crucifixion. The giving over of Jesus began late Thursday night after sundown (the first part of Friday in Jewish thinking).

    Thursday night (incarceration) 1st night
    Friday day (crucifixion) 1st day
    Friday night (tomb) 2nd night
    Saturday day (tomb) 2nd day
    Saturday night (tomb) 3rd night
    Sunday day (tomb for a short time after sunrise) 3rd day

    3 days and nights all represented. Friday crucifixion.
     
  5. percho

    percho Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2009
    Messages:
    7,336
    Likes Received:
    458
    Faith:
    Baptist

    I have stated before I know, no Greek. Therefore one would have to check with the Greek guru members, on the board, as to the correctness of that part covering Luke 24.

    Part Seven - Jesus' Three Days And Three Nights Of Entombment And The Resurrection
     
  6. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,821
    Likes Received:
    798
  7. percho

    percho Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2009
    Messages:
    7,336
    Likes Received:
    458
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Personally I believe it to men death. However the article shows the meaning of Luke 24 to be, that three days have completely passed and we still have not seen him, yet he was there with them.

    See 24:7. The angle told the women that and the women toll the disciples what the angel had said which included the two disciples walking with Jesus.

    The angel said, Jesus said he would be raised from the dead after three days and now those three days have passed. Where is he?
     
  8. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,821
    Likes Received:
    798
    Indeed let's look at that verse.

    Luke 24:7 ‘The Son of Man must be delivered over to the hands of sinners, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.’​

    Doesn't that verse specifically say Jesus was raised on the 3rd day after he was given into the hands of sinners and crucified? Does it not mention the giving over of Jesus to earthly authorities along with the crucifixion. And look at verses 20 and 21.

    Luke 24:20 The chief priests and our rulers handed him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him; 21 but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place.​

    Here Cleopas says it's the 3rd day since all of these things happened, including handing Jesus over to earthly authorities. That handing over started on Thursday after Sundown (the first part of Friday in jewish thinking). In my mind, that's the missing night we've been looking for.
     
  9. rstrats

    rstrats Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2002
    Messages:
    580
    Likes Received:
    2
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Calminian,
    re: "Here Cleopas says it's the 3rd day since all of these things happened, including handing Jesus over to earthly authorities. That handing over started on Thursday after Sundown (the first part of Friday in jewish thinking). In my mind, that's the missing night we've been looking for. "

    The Messiah said He would be in the heart of the earth for three nights. How does the night time arrest count as one of the three nights in the heart of the earth?
     
  10. Calminian

    Calminian Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2016
    Messages:
    5,821
    Likes Received:
    798
    I would pose a similar question back to you. How does Jesus' time in the grave count as 'heart of the earth'? IOWs why do you believe 'heart of the earth' is a reference to the grave? We don't see that phrase used for grave anywhere else in Scripture. Under the earth would be a more appropriate term if that's what Jesus wanted to convey.

    And how is Jonah's time in the whale a reference to the grave? Was he dead? Text doesn't say that. He was confined and imprisoned, but not dead.

    One thing for sure, the crucifixion had to be Friday, and Sunday has to be the third day since the crucifixion. There are too many Scriptures that confirm this. But Christ, i suspicion, was speaking in broader terms when he was speaking of the sign of Jonah. He was talking about the time Christ offered himself to the earthly authorities. That lasted from Thursday night to the time he left the grave.
     
    #110 Calminian, Jun 19, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2018
  11. Squire Robertsson

    Squire Robertsson Administrator
    Administrator

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2000
    Messages:
    15,371
    Likes Received:
    2,405
    Faith:
    Baptist
    As the OP is banned this thread is closed.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...