1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve. - Acts 19
Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed?
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by rockytopva, Mar 24, 2018.
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rockytopva Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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What's your point?
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rockytopva Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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rockytopva Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Here are examples of people getting the Holy Spirit....
Example of a Wesleyan Church Service
I believe that these gentlemen were save, they just needed the witness of the Spirit within. The old fashion mourners bench is of great assistance!
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I received the Holy Ghost when I believed. He sealed me, and I have the assurance He will not abandon me.
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rockytopva Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
And Absalom met the servants of David. And Absalom rode upon a mule, and the mule went under the thick boughs of a great oak, and his head caught hold of the oak, and he was taken up between the heaven and the earth; and the mule that was under him went away. - 2 Samuel 18:9
I believe people can be caught up in a great intellectual oak, hanging there between heaven and earth, thinking they have the Holy Spirit.... When in reality they are a million miles from God, in which the Apostle Paul goes on to say....
1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. -1 Corinthians 2 -
All saved people are indwelt with the Holy Spirit. He was asking to determine if they heard the complete gospel and were saved.
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rockytopva Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I think it would be good to encourage people to seek more of the Holy Spirit in this day and time. -
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And.... The personal ego is not the Holy Spirit.
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rockytopva Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
And, thankfully, the Holy Spirit is not religious melancholy.
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Steven Yeadon Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
My point of view is a bit different. Many people in the Church who act no different than the world are potentially those that will cry "Lord! Lord!" at the Judgment and be cast into hell. The problem is that many preachers have chosen to eschew the biblical precept of confirming one's salvation. It is almost never preached on nowadays despite the pressing need for it given polls of Christians showing at least marked sexual sins among believers. I want to mention John MacArthur as someone I am personally impressed with on his teaching of confirming election. His is a robust teaching over at Grace to You. This issue is terribly sidetracked by arguments over the sinner's prayer being efficacious or not. The real issue is that an entire doctrine of the bible has been forgotten by a people, the American Church, that desperately need it.
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rockytopva Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...
Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)
And there are three varieties...
Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Mentally, A mathematical formula, but this has chemical and spiritual properties as well.
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)
A path to Spiritual Anointing....
1. Hope - All things begin with a hope
2. Faith - Motivation is a child of faith and hope
3. Charis - Grace - A powerful neighbor of caritas
4. Dynamos - Greek for virtue and motivation
5. Eucharisteo - Much grace... Gratitude
6. Charisomai - Well favored - A lucky kind of feeling
7. Euchrestos - Greek for profitable
8. Chairo - Greek for cheer - "Cheerio mate!"
9. Chara - Greek for joy
10. Chrestotes - An 'Aunt Bee' kind of Goodness
11. Charisma - Heavenly Graciousness
12. Chris ma - Heavenly Anointing - The Holy Grail!
13. Chris tians - The anointed people!
14. Chris t - The anointed one!
A truly Spirit filled Christian will have a spiritual energy and light as well as a knowledge of biblical doctrine. Early on Billy Graham had this spiritual anointing in his ministry, where you could spiritually sense God in the ministry of the word.