Why do you say this? What scripture do you use to support that statement? </font>[/QUOTE]What documentation do we have that indicates any other race of people sacrifice animals for the forgiveness of sin? What record is there in the bible that non Jews sacrificed for the atonement of sin?
The only record we have for such activity is that of the Jews.
Heresy Du Jour
Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by The Archangel, Mar 12, 2003.
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So what are you trying to say? :confused: Why don't you just admit you're argument is wrong? This has been Scripturally proven. -
So what are you trying to say? :confused: Why don't you just admit you're argument is wrong? This has been Scripturally proven. </font>[/QUOTE]Have you not read any of my posts? I have consistantly stated that Jesus' atonement for mankind is for all mankind. It was a Jew who was sacrificed for Jews at the time the atonement took place.
It was not until after Jesus arose and at the ascention to the Father's right hand that it was revealed to Peter and the Apostles that the Gentiles are to be included. That was reinforced by the conversion of Paul who was to be the Apostle to the Gentiles. -
So what is it you are arguing about then? :confused:
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Ephesians tells us that Christ has given himself for us (including Gentiles--see 2:11) as "an offering and sacrifice for a sweet smelling odor to God." 1 Corinthians says that "our paschal lamb has been sacrificed, even Christ." (5:7)
Anytime the scripture mentions peace or reconciliation or propitiation coming through the blood of Christ, it would seem that the idea of sacrifice is in mind.
Ephesians 2 tells us that we both--Jews and Gentiles--come together through the one sacrifice. The Gentiles are brought in under the umbrella of this sacrifice. The middle wall of separation that keeps Gentiles out of the place where the sacrifices for sins were made is broken down by Christ's sacrifice, and both Jews and Gentiles have peace with God through the sacrifice of Christ.
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What did the Ephesians know of a "Paschal Lamb"?
It seems Ephesus is in present day Turkey, and the people of Ephesus more than likely did not offer sacrifices for sins, and may not have understood the significance of sin because they were not subject to the Mosaic law.
Corinth is even further away from Israel, and I'm sure they were not subject to the Mosaic law, and there is evidence remaining even today that the Corinthians were no saints.
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Isn't it true that Paul spoke to the Corinthian church concerning meat offered to idols? This shows that other societies besides Israel did offer sacrifice to their gods.
God Bless.
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But were those sacrifices for Atonement?
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They certainly thought they were in some form or the other to 'appease' the god, or for what other reason would they be offered?
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