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Holy Land: Muslim convert to Christianity slaughtered & cut into pieces

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by LadyEagle, Jul 30, 2003.

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  1. LadyEagle

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    I thought Islam was a religion of peace. :rolleyes:
     
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    How awful.
    I guess it depends on your defination of peace. Apparently they can make it fit just right with slaughter. Hope they get plenty of raisins. :eek:
     
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    Can anyone confirm the story from a more mainstreem news agency? I can't find anything. I'm trying to find out what denomination the person was. Not that it's all that important, just curious. Heck, I can't even find out the guy's name.
     
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    Doubtful you'll find this in a mainstream publication. They don't have a very good history of reporting Muslim atrocities worldwide unless the story is so big that it can't be ignored, such as 09/11 or Bali bombing. Or something that may interfere with the stock market or tourism or investments of international corporations.

    Cases in point: Sierra Leone, Sudan, Congo, Indonesia, etc.
     
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    9-11 was not a Muslim atrocity. Just ask the families of Muslims who were killed that day.

    The fact that many important details in the story you posted are missing places the story in question. What's the victim's name? How old was he? Where was he from? How was his body returned?

    It's becoming apparant that this story is either a fabrication, or a gross exaggeration. I can find no news agency, or for that matter, any agency at all, that has a record of this.
     
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    I thought Christianity was a religion that forbad engaging in gossip and rumor, but I guess if the subject is Islam, it's allowable.
     
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    John, from the article cited this is hardly either rumor or gossip. At worst, it may be classified as an unsubstaniated news report. However, that's only if one wishes to cast a jaundiced eye on the matter. I don't think (but I may be wrong) the Barnabas Fund published the report just for the fun of it or to raise money. But to expect the story to be picked up by Reuters or other secular sources before giving it credence, is expecting a bit too much. For many years, news of the persecution of Believers in the USSR was reported and published in the West by folks like Georgi Vins. This news rarely made it into the "mainstream" press.

    I believe these lines from the story answer the question of why some details were left out of the story:
    Considering the relative compactness of the West Bank, it would take very few details for those that would do the survivors harm to zero in on them.

    That being said, the question of how reliable the Barnabas Fund is in their reporting is a good one. Do any of our British members know of the organization and its reputation?
     
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    I would tend to agree. What's of concern to me is the incredible lack of any pertinent detail in the story, which does not assist in substantiating it. OTOH, I don't think that Barnabas Fund would invent such a story solely for the purpose of fund raising. But I'd be curious as to how they got the info. It's implied that they may have gotten it first hand, but what that means in reality is anyone's guess.

    On the flip side, should we be equally concerned about single incidents where a Muslim is killed in a Christians? They, too, don't make it into the mainstream press, and are often reported in in similar fashion to this incident. I read them often enough, and I generally don't give them any more weight than this one. But, as Christians, should we at least be aware of them, regardless of the religious faith of the victim?

    I'm sure that if I posted a story where a Muslim was killed by a Christian, I'd be accused of being a Muslim apologist, not to mention there will probably be at least one post that defends the actions of the perpetrator, or symply sluffs it off by saying "oh the guy wasn't really a Christian".
     
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  10. Squire Robertsson

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    You would be surpised by the news about Evangelical Christian-Baptists and their governmental problems I get from the former Soviet Union. Not that any of it make the "mainstream" press here. But there are fax machines and people are traveling from Moscow to the US. So, word fairly quickly leaks out to those who are interested in such matters.

    From the looks of their "About Us" page, the Barnabas Fund seems to be in a position to receive first hand reports from their contacts in the West Bank. I realize Wiltshire is not in the thick of things. But, to the best of my knowledge, the telephone lines are up between Pewsey and Ramallah.
     
    #10 Squire Robertsson, Aug 1, 2003
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