Care to elaborate on this, then?
I understand sir....... and that is my wish too. It is not about Calvinism for me either..... but I do believe sir that Calvinism is at the root of the disagreement between Lou, Quack and other non calvinist with those who hold to reformed theology.
Honest debate of Lordship Salvation
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by canadyjd, Nov 29, 2007.
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I too have a problem with the way JM words the part about whole hearted commitment. Regenerate people may have intentions about being whole heartedly committed to Jesus... but their commitment falls way short too many times.
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However, you just keep repeating the same ole things, regardless of the facts that have been presented to you.
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That has yet to be responded to by you or Lou, simply because there is no denying the side by side comparison demonstrates MacArthur is being misrepresented.
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He doesn't appear, at least initially, to allow for growth in commitment toward Jesus as a person matures in their faith.
If that is what LS teaches, then I disagree.
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What's the matter Q ? Can't you admit you made a blunder ? BB is not a Calvinist ( apparently you thought so ) so you made an unwarranted leap and charged Calvinists with holding to his views . Please document just one Calvinist here or elsewhere who claims that someone who is regenerate always turns away from sin . If you can't furnish such a quote admit your folly and move on . But please don't go on a grandiloquent rant in an attempt to cover-up your unfounded assertions .[/quote]
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I have some quotes from various proponents of the Lordship Salvation debate. I post the following quotes to perhaps help you understand what the LS position is and what it is not. Hope you find it helpful regardless of what stand you take in this issue.
From Kenneth Gentry's short book entitled Lord of the Saved: Getting to the Heart of the Lordship Debate which I have been reading and reading throughout the duration of this thread.
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) commenting on the LS position:....Sam Storms continues with some thoughts from John Piper:Click to expand...
Thank you again:thumbs: Isaiah40:28
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If you have time to read the whole sermon, I think you will find that what MacArthur teaches and believes is very much in line with the views of the others already quoted.
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What is curious however, is his talk of "wholehearted commitment" being an element (if you will) of salvific faith in his discussion of the Lordship issue. I am, I suppose, not quite understanding what he means by "wholehearted commitment" and how that is related to maturing in the faith.
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