God won "Job's challenge", because He created a man that was loyal to Him as demonstrated by Job's faith.
The only reason Job was loyal to the death, was because Job was born again, and his will mercifully changed when God changed His heart.
Like David, he became a man after God's own heart.
How Free Will Turns the Gospel into Law and Grace into Works.
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by 1689Dave, Jul 16, 2019.
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Try to focus on the word "reckon" in regard to faith. Notice how it's often mentioned with faith. We believe, but God reckons our belief. And he does so under no obligation. God could condemn believers along with non-believers and still be just. That is the reason why salvation is 100% of God. Faith does not earn God's reckoning. God chooses of his own free will to reckon.
I think this solves the problem many determinists are concerned about. When you understand the concept of reckoning, you no longer have to worry about man taking part in faith. The faith itself does not earn him anything. -
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Perhaps what you're doing is conflating man's faith with God's reckoning. That's why you believe freewill is a problem in regard to faith, you can't separate the two. -
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Paul actually calls believers "the ungodly."
Romans 4:5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. -
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it is not just the presence of faith , but what is your faith in. Faith does not save. Faith in the finished work of Christ offers salvation. One can believe in Christ as Savior and still not repent and bide lost
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We do not believe with our minds, which would be work, but we believe with our hearts it is faith
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Seems to me you've elevated faith to a meritorious work status. Curious how you got that conclusion, considering all the passages is scripture denying it.
So, do you deny the doctrine of reckoning? Or do you even know what it is? Have you researched it?
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