Should there even be any of that language, and if so, where would you draw the line between not enough and too much of it in translation?
How Many here Like Gender inclusive translations?
Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Yeshua1, Mar 28, 2020.
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I am in favor of gender-accurate Bible translations.
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I also am in favor of accurate gender inclusive versions. However I have not seen a good one. I am woefully behind the times though, so there may be some.
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The English translation should be as close to the original source as is practical. If the source is masculine the translation should be masculine.
In the places where everyone agrees that the masculine represents both sexes then say so in bracketed text. Don't change the actual language except where it is necessary due structure differences in the languages and due to the lack of direct word for word translations.
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Count me in.
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(Q) How about the NET? (A) That's a good one also
Just how many of these simplistic 'questions' are you intending to ask? -
"However, even though readers need to know that the original languages were grammatically gendered (and those studying the original languages are aware of this), we believe that the primary purpose of a translation is to communicate the message of the Bible to its readers, and so we believe that translations should be gender-inclusive where appropriate to reflect the inclusive nature of what is being discussed. Thus, use of 'brothers and sisters' is appropriate to reflect a word that in previous translations would have been rendered 'brothers,' if Paul is speaking to a church congregation that includes both men and women." ( taken from Fundamentals Of New Testament Textual Criticism by Stanley E. Porter and Andrew W. Pitts, p.187)
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1 Cor. 2:1 KJV "2 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God."
1 Cor. 2:1 NIV "2 And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God."
If the original text that is interpreted "brothers" in the KJV is actually the masculine only word, I would suggest the NIV text to indicate what the original language actually says in the normal text, and then add "and sisters" in brackets or some other indicator to show that the interpreter added to the original text (with the intent to show what was actually intended.) The reason I suggest this is so the end user has the best translation as well as the generally excepted likely meaning of what was said.
Example: And so it was with me, brothers [and sisters.]* When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God -
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The NET is a very viable translation. I have 3 things up when I read the Bible. The ESV, the NET and the NA28. I have found several words, phrases and sentences in which the NET translated the Greek, as I read it, better than the ESV....and you know I am a fan of the ESV.
We have been blessed with a multitude of quality translations in English.
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Hope that helps clear it up instead of confusing it even more. . .:D -
Another nuance referring to gender is seen in the USA, and, I believe in Britain. A ship is often referred to as "she", even if it plainly has a male name A downward passage in a street, to a sewer line, or other utilities, is called a "manhole" in the USA, even though females have also used them for a long time. I believe many English Bible references employ a male nuance, while common sense says they're actually gender-inclusive.
However, I like Bible translations to be accurate-as-possible with the languages being translated.
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