its NOT various eschatological/Sotierology viewpoints is it?
has to be something seperate than that, right?
how Should we define what is Heresy?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Yeshua1, Sep 11, 2013.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
an opinion, doctrine, or practice contrary to the truth or to generally accepted beliefs or standards
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A false doctrine, or practice which opposes orthodoxy. A false teacher may teach correct doctrine and live a lie.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Denying a literal and physical future return of Jesus is heresy.
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The axiom, "History is writing by the victors" is pretty much true. Heresy is whatever a governing body determines it to be. When something is labeled as heresy it helps to consider the source. Is it the Roman church labeling justification by faith alone as heresy? Most Protestants would reject that label.
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The Biblicist Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
However, it always will come back to the Scriptures and what the Scriptures clearly cite as non-negotiables and what the Scriptures demand has no alternatives (e.g. "except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish" etc.). The "must" statements of Scripture (e.g. "ye MUST be born again"). Or negatively what the Scriptures outright delcare to be false doctrines (1 Jn. 4:2-4; etc.).
But, then those who teach the very things the Scriptures condemn provide "interpretations" to deny their false teachings are what the scriptures condemn. Hence, utter confusion is presented to the common person observing Christendom.
Rome handles this problem of confusion by asserting apostolic authority through the Catholic Church and its counsels and traditions. Others handle this problem by their own declarations of faith and practice.
The truth is that no denomination or person in history knows and embraces all truth.
The Scriptures assert that the final authority for truth is the scriptures (Isa. 8:20; 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 1:19-21) and so we can discount all who deny this basic principle (Rome, Mormon's, World religions, etc.).
Jesus declares there are two basic ways into which all religious people and their system of teachings will fit (Mt. 7:13-14) and the "broad way" is where the "many" and all false teachers fit (Mt. 7:15-20).
Hence, another basic principle is that "orthodoxy" and those who embrace it will be in the minority not the majority. Significantly, the Lord's emphasis in Matthew 7:13-23 is not on those religions that do not profess his name (Mt. 7:21-23) but on those who do profess his name.
Another basis prinicple about those who are in the majority is that they include those who persecute and kill other professing Christians (Jn. 16:1-4; Mt. 5:10-11) and/or make unholy all unions (fornication) with the state governments (Rev. 17:1-5).
Another very basic of Biblical orthodoxy is its repeated limiations on "one way" to God (Jn. 14:6; Acts 4:12) and that any other gospel of salvation (Gal. 1:6-9) is accursed. Many embrace many gospels (Old Testament gospel versus N.T. gospel, kingdom gospel versus post-Pentecost gospel, post-Pentecost gospel versus tribulation gospel; etc.). -
"Heresy is as heresy does." -
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same fashion, can disagree on Sotierology, as we can be calvinistic/Arminian, but cannot be ones that would be denying original Sin, and cannot hold to free will of man as what saves us?
that within orthodoxy can be varying shades of doctrine, some more "biblically riht " thn others, but cannot go off into not ortthodox areas?
And that Catholics and other holding to extra biblical authorityand sacramental graces are really teach outside orthodox, and another Gospel? -
asterisktom Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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How can you state that has ever happened? -
asterisktom Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Biblical discussions and debate require a Biblical foundation, not contemporary or cultural notions of what is or isn't heresy. -
Did that happen in AD 70? -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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