Preacher Boy88
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Hyles Anderson College is the most elite Bible College in the world.
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Hyles Anderson College
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1. You will find a lot of intense disagreement with that opinion here.
2. Since when does God call us to be elite? Humble, Godly, holy, but elite?
2. Since when does God call us to be elite? Humble, Godly, holy, but elite?
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Plain Old Bill
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What's your connection?
Have you read any of the HA threads down in the College Forum?
NaasPreacher (C4K)
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Is that because there are 12 "characters" per inch
?www.dictionary.com - "elite - A size of type on a typewriter, equal to 12 characters per linear inch."
Is that because there are 12 "characters" per inch
?www.dictionary.com - "elite - A size of type on a typewriter, equal to 12 characters per linear inch." </font>[/QUOTE]
4His_glory
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So you have been to every Bible college in the world?
Sad fact is that most fundamental Bible colleges are really Bible institutes in disquise.
DeafPosttrib
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Many attend Hyles-Anderson College, because of worship Late Jack Hyles as idol.
In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
Pastor_Bob
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If you feel that God is leading you to attend HAC, then you have to do what the Lord tells you to do. Please do not be influenced by the negative remarks you read on this forum. Similar remarks can be and have been said about nearly every other school mentioned.
As far as attending for the purpose of "worshiping" the late Jack Hyles, that is a ludicrous, ridiculous statement that obviously comes from someone not acquainted with the college.
Hyles-Anderson College is not for everyone; but then again, no college is for everyone. If you are praying about college, get godly counsel from your Pastor, your parents, and other godly men and women that you know. I wouldn’t put too much stock in the information you read here about HAC. It has been my experience that most have a negative bias toward the late Jack Hyles and also for his successor Jack Schaap. Most of which is entirely unfounded and baseless.
I have colleges with whom I disagree on many issues, but you'll rarely see me post negative remarks about them. According to my Bible, Christians are not supposed to bring "railing accusations" against one another. For a good study on this issue, consider the following passage:
Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. (KJV)
Pastor_Bob,
There is a difference between railing accusations and honest feedback on a particular issue.
I agree.
But HAC has serious problems that cannot be defended. If someone does some research online and listens to the teachings of Schaap, it doesn't take long to uncover for yourself.
I won't make the judgements for you but if you are discerning you will hear some disturbing statements straight from the mouth of Jack Schaap.
HAC is at best a bad Bible Institute and at worst a bad Sunday School class.
Get a good education. Learn the disciplines of study and learning. Learn how to deliver full meals to your people. Candy won't satisfy or sustain for long.
Plus KJVO is a heretical position. Enough said.
But even apart from that, there are many other issues with the school and there are a 100's of other schools that provide so many better options. For a young man looking to learn how to nourish the souls of men and women and children, HAC is a bad choice.
There is a difference between railing accusations and honest feedback on a particular issue.
I agree.
But HAC has serious problems that cannot be defended. If someone does some research online and listens to the teachings of Schaap, it doesn't take long to uncover for yourself.
I won't make the judgements for you but if you are discerning you will hear some disturbing statements straight from the mouth of Jack Schaap.
HAC is at best a bad Bible Institute and at worst a bad Sunday School class.
Get a good education. Learn the disciplines of study and learning. Learn how to deliver full meals to your people. Candy won't satisfy or sustain for long.
Plus KJVO is a heretical position. Enough said.
But even apart from that, there are many other issues with the school and there are a 100's of other schools that provide so many better options. For a young man looking to learn how to nourish the souls of men and women and children, HAC is a bad choice.
Pastor_Bob
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What year(s) did you attend?
What year(s) did you attend?
What year(s) did you attend?
loving2daysyouth
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Obviously, you all have no experience with HAC or First Baptist whatsoever. As someone who ministers in the area, have been there for myself, and am not a Hyles-ite etc. I would tell you that you need to do more research. Jealousy arouses much contention. Perhaps the ministries you are involved in hasn't seen the Lord's hand and you are upset that their's has!
Pastor_Bob,
I will give you a little background on myself so you understand why I have come to the conclusion that HAC is not a good choice for a college.
I have no reason to be malicious or antagonistic towards HAC. In fact, it would be quite the opposite.
My father is an evangelist. He was recently flown into HAC and honored by Jack Schaap because Jack Schaap credits him with influencing him into ministry. My parents are taking a cruise in the next few weeks given to them by HAC.
I say that to say...I don't have a reason to be malicious.
My experiences with the college were during my High School years when I was in South Bend, Indiana and we were a part of a church that had multiple HAC graduates. So I experienced a ministry guided by HAC graduates. We went to a number of events at the college and a good number of my high school classmates went there.
I just disagree with the philosophy of ministry. And in fact, if you went to my youth pastor who is now the Senior Pastor at Grace Baptist Church in South Bend, Indiana and asked him if he would choose HAC again. He would say no. He would rather recieve a more well-rounded education that included the languages and better educational training and a different philosophy of ministry.
I attended Maranatha Baptist Bible College in Watertown, Wi and Calvary Baptist Seminary in Lansdale, Pa. I wouldn't choose either of those schools today either but that is another point.
As far as researching what goes on there:
http://www.baptist-city.com/classic_schaap.htm
Just listen to the sermon America America if you want to know why I think getting an education at HAC is a bad choice.
This isn't malicious. It is factual. You look at the leader of an organization to make a decision such as the college you will attend.
Not to mention the organization is KJVO. How a college who teaches the original languages could be KJVO is beyond me. Well, I guess they don't really teach the original languages and that is another major problem.
I will give you a little background on myself so you understand why I have come to the conclusion that HAC is not a good choice for a college.
I have no reason to be malicious or antagonistic towards HAC. In fact, it would be quite the opposite.
My father is an evangelist. He was recently flown into HAC and honored by Jack Schaap because Jack Schaap credits him with influencing him into ministry. My parents are taking a cruise in the next few weeks given to them by HAC.
I say that to say...I don't have a reason to be malicious.
My experiences with the college were during my High School years when I was in South Bend, Indiana and we were a part of a church that had multiple HAC graduates. So I experienced a ministry guided by HAC graduates. We went to a number of events at the college and a good number of my high school classmates went there.
I just disagree with the philosophy of ministry. And in fact, if you went to my youth pastor who is now the Senior Pastor at Grace Baptist Church in South Bend, Indiana and asked him if he would choose HAC again. He would say no. He would rather recieve a more well-rounded education that included the languages and better educational training and a different philosophy of ministry.
I attended Maranatha Baptist Bible College in Watertown, Wi and Calvary Baptist Seminary in Lansdale, Pa. I wouldn't choose either of those schools today either but that is another point.
As far as researching what goes on there:
http://www.baptist-city.com/classic_schaap.htm
Just listen to the sermon America America if you want to know why I think getting an education at HAC is a bad choice.
This isn't malicious. It is factual. You look at the leader of an organization to make a decision such as the college you will attend.
Not to mention the organization is KJVO. How a college who teaches the original languages could be KJVO is beyond me. Well, I guess they don't really teach the original languages and that is another major problem.
4His_glory
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You are assuming that anyone who does not like HAC is jealous. There is nothing wrong with pointing out difficulties with any institution.
Also to say that God has blessed FBC Hammond because of the growth etc. is wrong. Numbers are not a sign of God's blessing. If that were the case then God sure has blessed the Roman Catholic Church!
I've read many threads here bashing Dr. Hyles and HAC. It seems almost a badge of honor to some to slam Dr. Hyles and characterize the graduates as mind numbed robots. I want to just share some thoughts with the esteemed readers of this thread.
I came out of college and even though I had been saved at a revival as a young child, I was never taught, my family went away from church.
A graduate of HAC had started a church near my hometown in Ohio and invited me to church. The preaching, the spirit in that place and love I received as a part of that church is the most Christ like experience I have had in my walk with the Lord.
I was more blessed in that time then in my many years in other churches.
I understand Dr. Hyles had flaws and many problems. I know his son is very messed up. It doesn't matter..... I have chosen to forgive. A little forgiveness would seem to be a very Christ like activity.
You may disagree with the teaching and that is your right. I would submit that not every Hyles graduate is strictly regurgitating the party line. To say so is one of those blanket statements that are almost never true.
I'm thankful for Jack Hyles because one of his preacher boys showed me the importance of following, seeking and growing toward Christ.
I would never tell you to not expose what you believe is error. I would ask that maybe you correct without so much joy as you hammer and berate.
A wise man, in fact the wisest of men once said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone.". Christ was the only one there without sin and he didn't cast the stone.
Thanks for your time.
I came out of college and even though I had been saved at a revival as a young child, I was never taught, my family went away from church.
A graduate of HAC had started a church near my hometown in Ohio and invited me to church. The preaching, the spirit in that place and love I received as a part of that church is the most Christ like experience I have had in my walk with the Lord.
I was more blessed in that time then in my many years in other churches.
I understand Dr. Hyles had flaws and many problems. I know his son is very messed up. It doesn't matter..... I have chosen to forgive. A little forgiveness would seem to be a very Christ like activity.
You may disagree with the teaching and that is your right. I would submit that not every Hyles graduate is strictly regurgitating the party line. To say so is one of those blanket statements that are almost never true.
I'm thankful for Jack Hyles because one of his preacher boys showed me the importance of following, seeking and growing toward Christ.
I would never tell you to not expose what you believe is error. I would ask that maybe you correct without so much joy as you hammer and berate.
A wise man, in fact the wisest of men once said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone.". Christ was the only one there without sin and he didn't cast the stone.
Thanks for your time.
Timtoolman
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Last time I heard Jack Hyles speak myself and a graduate from there had to walk out. He was speaking at Midwestern Baptist College. In his message he stated that he had to sacrafice his son for the ministry. That one day he was pouring over his long list of invatations to speak and he went to his son, who was young at that time. He said if I start taking these speaking engagements your dad will be so busy that I will not be able to play ball with you or attend your games. You will be on your own alot. Then after the service young people gave thier testimonies. One after the other for an hour we listen. Everyone of them, EVERYONE spoke about or praised Dr so and so. NOt one ever mention Jesus Christ or God. Mentioned His blessings or what He had done for tghem. No they praised men for an hour before we left. I understand they were there another hour after we left. Certainly was not a worship service for God. My friend who is a pastor out in CA was sadden but he still loved the man. Men are not perfect thus they do fall away. I don't hate the man or the college. I think the new crop of pastors coming up ought to show some respect for these men because God did use them. Hyles, Malone,Rice, Jones. But I find them being disrespectful. They have found a new and better gospel that is perfect. Sad to say it is mostly calvinist.