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I know Bush needs our prayers but does he need medical help?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by ASLANSPAL, Aug 26, 2005.

  1. ASLANSPAL

    ASLANSPAL New Member

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    (The following is heavily redacted from Capitol
    Hill Blue)

    Bush's Obscene Tirades Rattle White House Aides
    By DOUG THOMPSON
    Aug 25, 2005, 06:19

    While President George W. Bush travels around the country in a last-ditch effort to sell his Iraq war, White House aides scramble frantically behind the scenes to hide the dark mood of an increasingly angry leader who unleashes obscenity-filled outbursts at anyone who dares disagree with him.

    “I’m not meeting again with that XXXXXXXXX XXXXX,” Bush screamed at aides who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother whose son died in Iraq. “She can go to XXXX as far as I’m concerned!”


    Bush XXXXXXX the XXXX, something aides say he does often and has been doing since his days as governor of Texas.
    Bush, administration aides confide, frequently explodes into tirades over those who protest the war, calling them “XXXXXXXXXXXXXX traitors.” He reportedly was so upset over Veterans of Foreign Wars members who wore “XXXXXXXX protectors” over their ears during his speech to their annual convention that he told aides to “tell those VFW XXXXXXXX that I’ll never speak to them again is they can’t keep their members under control.”

    White House insiders say Bush is growing increasingly bitter over mounting opposition to his war in Iraq. Polls show a vast majority of Americans now believe the war was a mistake and most doubt the President’s honesty.

    “Who XXXXX XX XXXXXX XXXX what the polls say,” he screamed at a recent strategy meeting. “I’m the President and I’ll do whatever I XXXXXXXXX please. They don’t XXXX XXXX.”

    Bush, whiles setting up for a photo op for signing the recent CAFTA bill, XXXXXXXX an XXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXX to reporters. Aides say the President often “XXXXX XXX XXXX” to show his displeasure and tells aides who disagree with him to “XX XX XXXX” or to “XX XXXX XXXXXXXX.” His habit of XXXXXX XXXXXX XXX XXXXXX goes back to his days as Texas governor, aides admit, and videos of him doing so before press conferences were widely circulated among TV stations during those days. A recent video showing him XXXXXXXX XXX XXXXXX to reporters while walking also recently surfaced.

    Bush’s behavior, according to prominent Washington psychiatrist, Dr. Justin Frank, author of “Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President,” is all too typical of an alcohol-abusing bully who is ruled by fear.

    To see that fear emerges, Dr. Frank says, all one has to do is confront the President. “To actually directly confront him in a clear way, to bring him out, so you would really see the bully, and you would also see the fear,” he says.

    Dr. Frank, in his book, speculates that Bush, an alcoholic who brags that he gave up booze without help from groups like Alcoholics Anonymous, XXX XX XXXXXXX again.

    “Two questions that the press seems particularly determined to ignore have hung silently in the air since before Bush took office,” Dr. Frank says. “Is he still drinking? And if not, is he impaired by all the years he did spend drinking? Both questions need to be addressed in any serious assessment of his psychological state.”

    Last year, Capitol Hill Blue learned the White House physician prescribed anti-depressant drugs for the President to control what aides called “violent mood swings.” As Dr. Frank also notes: “In writing about Bush's halting appearance in a press conference just before the start of the Iraq War, Washington Post media critic Tom Shales speculated that ‘the president may have been ever so slightly medicated.’”

    Dr. Frank explains Bush’s behavior as all-to-typical of an alcoholic who is still in denial:

    “The pattern of blame and denial, which recovering alcoholics work so hard to break, seems to be ingrained in the alcoholic personality; it's rarely limited to his or her drinking,” he says. “The habit of placing blame and denying responsibility is so prevalent in George W. Bush's personal history that it is apparently triggered by even the mildest threat.”


    © Copyright 2005 by Capitol Hill Blue

    I have said all along that bush is a baby Christian who could be losing the civil war
    that is raging inside his mind and clearly
    his workout addiction takes the place of
    past addictions but with a workout addiction
    sooner or later your body breaks down or you
    have an accident...of course he needs our prayers
    but imho he needs to talk to somebody. imho

    Although heavily edited the salient point is
    we should be concerned and hope and pray he gets
    some help either through spiritual miracle or
    medical psychiatry under the eye of a Sovereign
    God.
     
  2. Dragoon68

    Dragoon68 Active Member

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    A person who reaches and spreads conclusions like these on the basis of such limited information probably needs serious help with discerning fact from rumor.
     
  3. Mike McK

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    Not that you would care, but this article is a myth. It's been circulated for a couple of years now.

    In fact, Galatian tried posting it more than a year ago.

    A few of the words have been changed to make it appear to be current, but that's about it.

    Aslanspal, what is it about what President Bush allegedly says that's worse than what you've said to people here or about people like President Bush or Matt Drudge?

    Are you familiar with a guy named Carl Statton? I hear he's a pastor down around your way.

    [ August 26, 2005, 03:42 PM: Message edited by: Mike McK ]
     
  4. Bro. Curtis

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    I hate myself for doing this, but I see an ASLANSPAL a lot at the Huffington Post. Very similar posting style. I think the stuff he posts is mostly regurgitated from there. I could be wrong, though.
     
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    The ASP would have done well to redact the entire piece of tripe. Frankly I think the ASP has no interest in an intelligent discussion of the issues but is simply a verbose Bush Hater.
     
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    It is regurgitated from somewhere! :D
     
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  8. ASLANSPAL

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    Mck do you realize you just mentioned bush and drudge in the same breath...do I need to go get
    barney...now just nip it! nip it! btw Mck are you
    familar with Professor Irwin Corey he can help
    you with your state of Disorder. ;)


    No not familiar with Statton but Carl's jr. is really good perhaps the only thing I have in common with this guy. [​IMG]

    Bush's Obscene Tirades Rattle White House Aides
    By DOUG THOMPSON
    Aug 25, 2005, 06:19


    Actually the article was written Aug 25,2005 and has to do with current time frame ..from what I have read.


    But seriously bush we know for a fact has an
    exercise addiction...I know what that is like
    being a running addict in the 80's and 90's
    with 3 marathons under my belt..those brain
    chemicals really can percolate and drip into
    your system...but like I said once you get injured or wear out your knees be aware of
    withdrawals.

    I stand on my topic...bush needs our prayers and
    he may need to talk to someone about his anger.
    imho
     
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    Substitute Clinton everywhere you see Bush and Monica Lewinsky everywhere you see reference to Iraq and you have an almost identical story to the one floating around about Clinton during his impeachment.

    Language, temper tantrums and all.
     
  10. ASLANSPAL

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    Ahhh the cost of OldRegular everytime I see your
    name it takes me back to cheap gas OldRegular.

    But seriously, I framed the question

    1.Spiritually
    2.Medically

    1. We can all do
    2. May be up to President Bush. imho

    I agree Clinton had anger they brought in Tony
    Campolo to help him which I think it did.
     
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    ....I know what that is like
    being a running addict in the 80's and 90's
    with 3 marathons under my belt..those brain
    chemicals really can percolate and drip into
    your system...


    You don't say......
     
  12. kubel

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    I voted for Bush.

    He's playing the part of a concervative christian, but he's a politician. It was better than Kerry who was playing the part of liberal but still a politician.

    If any of you have been on the net long enough, you've probably seen the videos circulating around where he was totally wasted at a party ("Their ggoood ppeopplle") and the one where he flicks off the camera before a speech and then laughs. I doubt he has changed.
     
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    Here's the real Capitol Hill Blue version which includes an alleged photograph of President Bush making an obsence gesture.

    Bush's Obscene Tirades Rattle White House Aides

    You tell me if you believe that's a genuine photograph - relative to the article and not something else taken out of context - or one of the same caliber as the article itself.
     
  14. ASLANSPAL

    ASLANSPAL New Member

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    Off topic to Bro.Curtis

    White Rock twice and Cowtown marathon once and now
    the cartilidge in my knees are gone but it was fun
    while it lasted...It is all in the mind anyone
    can do it after a good doctors visit and training
    program. imho
     
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    Just because someone says they are a Christian does not make them a "true" christian...

    Matthew 7:20 states "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

    Lately I haven't seen bush bearing much fruit.

    Just my .02
     
  16. Dragoon68

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    We are all known by our "fruits".
     
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    The picture is real, Dragoon68. I have watched the video that it was taken from.
     
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    The picture is real, Dragoon68. I have watched the video that it was taken from. </font>[/QUOTE]I know the "photograph" is, literally, real but it's taken out of context from a video, as you said, which makes it appear to be something it is not. That's the difference between truth and distortion. Distortions give people an incorrect conclusion using fragments of truth.

    Here's the video, less sound, which many of us have seen and is probably the one you remember.

    Salute

    It was taken while George W. Bush was Governor of Texas before going on the air while kidding around with the camera crew. That's a completely different context than the Capitol Hill Blue article implies.

    I'm fairly sure President Bush has also given this salute in moments of anger. I've done it both in jest and in anger even though my better judgment is to avoid it. I suspect a number of us have done so and if we haven't actually made the gesture we've probably thought of doing so. Does that make us all raving mad men in need of medical help?
     
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    I have never made that gesture and I don't recall ever thinking of doing so.
     
  20. Dragoon68

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    Then, on this count, you're a better man than me.
     
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