Idiot thrown out of city meeting..

[go2church]

Would the same hold true if he was talking (possibly loudly) on his cell phone during the pledge?

Apples, oranges comparison. You don't have to participate, which sitting quietly sitting down accomplishes, but you can't interrupt what is going on, which talking on a cell phone does. One is a constitutional right the other is procedural.

Can't put up such a sign, not participating is a constitutional right.

 

[carpro]

He should have stood up. It's simple courtesy.

Like standing in a crowd of Canadians when they play their national anthem.

 

[Revmitchell]

He should have stood up. It's simple courtesy.

Like standing in a crowd of Canadians when they play their national anthem.

He should have. Some folks are just lazy

 

[Salty]

Would the same hold true if he was talking (possibly loudly) on his cell phone during the pledge?

Apples, oranges comparison. You don't have to participate, which sitting quietly sitting down accomplishes, but you can't interrupt what is going on, which talking on a cell phone does. One is a constitutional right the other is procedural.

(bold my emphasis)

That's right - one is a Constitutional right - The COTUS states "Congress shall make no law ...; or abridging the freedom of speech"
I didn't see anything about remaining in your seat.

 

[pinoybaptist]

He should have stood up. It's simple courtesy.

Like standing in a crowd of Canadians when they play their national anthem.

If one doesn't feel any allegiance to Canada, the US, or any country of any ideology for that matter, and they are about to play THEIR national anthem, then one needs to walk away.
Staying will EMPHASIZE their feeling of non-allegiance, and in many instances can be construed as arrogance or impoliteness, and poor breeding. And that is exactly what I find wrong in this culture today. It's the "I, me, my" of the current generation of "constitutional right-ers". The division between just plain courtesy has been so blurred by one's guaranteed rights. Did you hear what he said when asked to stand both times ?
I don't have to.

He should have. Some folks are just lazy

true.

 

[Salty]

If one doesn't feel any allegiance to Canada, the US, or any country of any ideology for that matter, and they are about to play THEIR national anthem, then one needs to walk away.
Staying will EMPHASIZE their feeling of non-allegiance, and in many instances can be construed as arrogance or impoliteness, and poor breeding. And that is exactly what I find wrong in this culture today. It's the "I, me, my" of the current generation of "constitutional right-ers". The division between just plain courtesy has been so blurred by one's guaranteed rights. Did you hear what he said when asked to stand both times ?
I don't have to.
.

:thumbs: :applause: :thumbs:

 

[go2church]

(bold my emphasis)

That's right - one is a Constitutional right - The COTUS states "Congress shall make no law ...; or abridging the freedom of speech"
I didn't see anything about remaining in your seat.

Now you're being silly as you know full speech has been widely defined as more than words.

 

[go2church]

If one doesn't feel any allegiance to Canada, the US, or any country of any ideology for that matter, and they are about to play THEIR national anthem, then one needs to walk away.
Staying will EMPHASIZE their feeling of non-allegiance, and in many instances can be construed as arrogance or impoliteness, and poor breeding. And that is exactly what I find wrong in this culture today. It's the "I, me, my" of the current generation of "constitutional right-ers". The division between just plain courtesy has been so blurred by one's guaranteed rights. Did you hear what he said when asked to stand both times ?
I don't have to.




true.

This generation of "constitutional right-ers", interesting phrase. Which constitutional right would you like to give up? Rights are there to protect the minority. Remember that next time someone try's to tell you what you must believe.

 

[pinoybaptist]

This generation of "constitutional right-ers", interesting phrase. Which constitutional right would you like to give up? Rights are there to protect the minority. Remember that next time someone try's to tell you what you must believe.

I have no quarrel with what you said about why rights are there. I do not agree, however, that they are just for the minority. I will not give up any constitutional right I have as a citizen of this country.
I will, however, NOT INVOKE IT just because I can, as in the case of the man in the video.
Being respectful to one in authority, and not going against what is considered proper decorum does not trounce on my constitutional right, and I do not have to be "different" just because I may, and just because I have the constitutional right to.
That is what I mean when I use the term "constitutional right-ers".
The guy in the video wanted to be a snip, just because he has the constitutional right to be.

 

[matt wade]

I have no quarrel with what you said about why rights are there. I do not agree, however, that they are just for the minority. I will not give up any constitutional right I have as a citizen of this country.
I will, however, NOT INVOKE IT just because I can, as in the case of the man in the video.
Being respectful to one in authority, and not going against what is considered proper decorum does not trounce on my constitutional right, and I do not have to be "different" just because I may, and just because I have the constitutional right to.
That is what I mean when I use the term "constitutional right-ers".
The guy in the video wanted to be a snip, just because he has the constitutional right to be.

So let me summarize your thoughts...you are all for constitutional rights and freedom, but just think that people should toe the line and do what is expected of them. The constitutional rights and freedoms are just there to put on a shelf and look at.

 

[Max Fenster]

"Sit down, shut up, do what you're told to do."

This is the primary purpose of public education. It's worked amazingly well.

 

[pinoybaptist]

"Sit down, shut up, do what you're told to do."

This is the primary purpose of public education. It's worked amazingly well.

derogatory statement aimed at those who are products of public education.

 

[pinoybaptist]

So let me summarize your thoughts...you are all for constitutional rights and freedom, but just think that people should toe the line and do what is expected of them. The constitutional rights and freedoms are just there to put on a shelf and look at.

since this is a Christian board, I suppose you will not find it inappropriate that I use Scripture that I feel expresses the same thought I have about the expediency of Constitutional rights. (although I am not going to be surprised if it turns out to be 'on the contrary').

1 Corinthians 6:12 - All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient : all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.