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I understand. My post was right after I woke up. I shouldn't be allowed near a tablet at that time . . .

 

I sometimes wear a tie, especially in colder weather, but I don't have an abundance of shirts to wear. The ones I have are wearing out, and I can't afford to replace them.

For work, I can wear polos, and I've been able to find these for a relatively inexpensive price. Plus, my car has no A/C, so I'm not going to wear anything to work in the summer that involves a tie!

I imagine in the coming months I'll be wearing a tie to church from time to time, though. I do like wearing ties; I just have to be able to afford to do it.

 

Honestly? Because the preaching is solid, I am happy here, and I can get involved and be a part of the church, as much as my mental condition allows.

This is an IFB, but we have visitors who wear clothing deemed inappropriate, and they are never chided. It is a KJVO church (not Ruckman-type, but closer to KJVP) but people are not derided if they use something else. They believe in separation, but to them it means insulating yourself from the world, not isolating yourself. The have bus ministries for bringing in kids, and they have nursing home ministries and preach to over 100 inmates in a prison ministry every Sunday and Monday.

Personally, I feel you have the wrong view of IFB, at least as a whole. That's the great thing about the "I". Each church is different. I've attended IFB churches that sang contemporary music in their services, and IFB where contemporary music was deemed "too worldly" to he listened to. One where I felt unwelcome for not wearing a tie, and one where the pastor wasn't wearing one.

IFB are too diverse to even begin judging all by any. You really don't know what you're getting until you get there.

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Maybe it's my area of the state. Practically every IFB church around here is KJVO and has "KJV1611" or "AV1611" on the church sign. I literally have never seen a church around here without some sort of similar position. (I like to check church websites out of curiosity.)

All the other Baptists are SBC, except for a rare Free Will or General Baptist church, a very small smattering of Missionary Baptist churches, and African-American NBC churches (also a very small number).

The area really is SBC-dominated. We probably have 25 churches for every IFB church, and that church always seems to be strongly KJVO.

On a personal note, if a church is anything close to KJVO, it's a non-starter. Even KJVP would knock a church to the bottom of my list, unless you mean the pastor preaches from the KJV. That's fine. I don't care what version the pastor uses. My pastor uses the ESV, but I use the NKJV.

 

I'll add one thing about my desire to avoid KJVO (which is absolute) and KJVP (which is contextual):

I want my children to be able to learn the Bible in a modern translation at church.

 

Our church only allows preachers and teachers to use the KJV. But we have children and visitors who bring in others. I can't speak to the membership, because I've never noticed.

Personally, at church I don't use the KJV. I use a Spanish translation. It helps me with my Spanish, and with my mental state translating the Spanish helps me stay in the "here and now".

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That would be a deal breaker for me. A church that couldn't allow a modern version in the pulpit--I have a conviction against this, and I couldn't join without violating my conscience. I could attend a service or two, but only with good reason.

 

And that is a point that we can agree to disagree on amiably. In that area, I hold no ill-will to someone who thinks differently than I do. I don't look at it as weaker/stronger. Just different opinions.

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I would elevate it higher than an opinion in my case, but I wouldn't force my conviction on others. It would be disingenuous for me personally to join such a church, so it would be a sin for me to do it.

I treat it like those who can't join another denomination without violating their consciences. Genuine, sincere Christians may be present, but I must fellowship with a church that corresponds with my convictions, as I believe everyone should do. That also goes for those who disagree with me. If it's not of faith, it's sin, right?

 

Now that right there is spot on!

 

I personally believe that KJVOism is a rejection of the Bible (in modern translations). Others may not have that view, but I believe that's strong enough to qualify as a conviction.

It would be a sin for me to join a church I believe holds such a position.

 

And if someone doesn't want to call it a conviction, it is a very, very, very strongly held belief/opinion.

I said also it was a sin for me because I could not do it out of faith. That is very true.

 

We obviously disagree, but I can't defend against the questions you ask.

I'll call it a belief or opinion--take your pick.

But it's as strong of a belief as diamond.