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  1. MrW

    MrW Well-Known Member

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    In a world where you can be anything, be kind.
     
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    being kind many mean one thing to one person - but something different to another.

    For example - If someone is panhandling for money - and I drop a 10 spot in his hat- some will
    say that I am being kind - others will say, I am being an enabler. Rather, I should offer him a job!

    Once, at a red light - a guy came up and said he needed money to eat lunch.
    I told to hop in and i would take him to the Rescue mission for lunch
    He said "I would never eat that slop". Apparently he wasn't really hungry!

    A Friend of mine in WV - saw a pan handler with a sign that said "No job - need help"
    Well, my friend was going to help this individual get a job - but the pan handler refused.
    My friend then told him to leave or he would call the police......

    So were my friend and I Kind? Would some call us mean?

    (Sorry Mr. W - on some things - you just cant win!)
     
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    We were at church one time and getting ready to go into a lunch that was fully prepared by the sisters... A woman came up to us men gathered around and said I need to speak to the pastor... Well he was in our group and said I'm the pastor what do you need?... She said sir I have some children who are starving and I need some money so I can go to the store and get them something to eat... He said well we won't do that but I will tell you what we will do... We are fixing to go into lunch and if you bring you and your hungry children here, they can go to the front of the line and fill their plates, we have plenty... She left and we all waited and never returned... Our pastor commented later... I guess she just wasn't hungry... Brother Glen:)
     
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    I worked an evening shift years ago (got off at midnight) and about 3 days a week a saw the same man panhandling at the same intersection. This went in for many months.

    Finally I noticed something. About 1 block over from where he stood I always saw a rather new Ford P/U on the days he was there. The truck was never there when he wasn’t there.

    I concluded, rightly or wrongly, he drive a much newer, and more expensive, vehicle than I did.

    I don’t give money to panhandlers but I will point them to shelters and other services offered by the state, county, city. Only a couple of time have they taken me up on it.

    peace to you
     
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    Mostly, I am referencing being kind on this forum.
     
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    In Syracuse, NY; newspapers followed a panhandled and found he did have a nice car and the family drove it to a nice home.


    Likewise, I will not give cash directly to someone. Once, when I was driving taxi, someone asked for a dollar to buy a burger. I ran in to BK, I pad for the burger and had to one, as my dispatcher just had give me a job top ick up someone

    Like Candy, I will help someone get help.
    Now, our church is extremely small - so we are unable to help someone. But our plan - when we can do so - will have our deacons take food to the house - they will look i the fridge - find out why assistance is
    needed. Maybe Mr. Jones doesnt know how to have a budget - Maybe Mrs Jones does not know how to cook. Then Mrs Deacon will teach the mother how to cook. -
     
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    Psalms 133: 1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

    The ultimatum in a perfect world, but this not a perfect world?

    Amos 3: 3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

    Brother Glen:)
     
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    Let me ask you something.

    You started a thread in the “Calvinist/Arminian”forum entitled “Calvinist dead”…

    Do you think your own posts in that thread were kind to people that disagree with you?

    peace to you
     
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    But they can disagree kindly. It’s a fruit of the Spirit of God.
     
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    I tried to open their understanding that the door swings both ways. I tried to be clear and kind.
     
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    Well, it certainly didn’t come across as “kind”. You mocked the responses and refused to address what was said.

    No, it wasn’t “kind” at all.

    peace to you
     
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    You're welcome to your opinion. I critiqued the responses and found them inconsistent with what Calvinists think death is. I was not unkind.
     
    #12 MrW, Apr 19, 2023
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    I specifically told you what I believed about it. Your presentation of “what Calvinist think death is” is a complete fabrication of what Calvinist think death is.

    Why not just accept what was said instead of offering your own definition with an anti-doctrines of grace slant?

    That would have been the kind thing to do.

    peace to you
     
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    A person can repeat verbatim what a Calvinist believes and the Calvinist will always deny it.

    Standard operating procedure.

    If you were dead to righteousness before you are to be dead to sin now. Romans 6.
     
    #14 MrW, Apr 20, 2023
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    well...
     
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    Already answered in #12.
     
    #16 MrW, Apr 22, 2023
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    What goes around comes around :Biggrin
     
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    Ever hear the song, “let’s not be beastly to the Germans?” It’s appropriate here!
     
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    Let me say it this way: My intention was not to be unkind but to make all aware of an inconsistency.

    I think I did that, and I don't think I was unkind. I did not intend to be, but maybe some interpreted it that way.
     
    #19 MrW, Apr 22, 2023
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    I understand your belief. If “dead” in trespasses and sin means you cannot seek God, then “dead” to sin must mean you cannot sin.

    I gave you scripture that shows both “dead” in trespasses and sin is taught by scripture AND that “dead” to sin does not mean you are not able to sin.

    Your response to me was that you were not talking about scripture… and then you mocked the so called “Calvinist” position as inconsistent.

    The “Calvinist” position is based on scripture, which you readily admit you are not talking about.

    ….and that is the problem and your mocking was unkind. I don’t see how anyone reading it would think otherwise.

    However, you are entitled to your opinion. I will leave you to your thread. Thanks for the conversation

    peace to you
     
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