Featured In Denunciation of Denials of the Future Bodily Resurrection of the Dead

Adoptions refers to us becoming children of God, and that is when we first believed, not when resurrected!

 

Adopted now as children of god, and will receive all that entails us when raised again!

 

Adoption IN THE BIBLE refers to the redemption of our body at the yet-future resurrection:

Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

 

How in the world can you say "now" when Paul the apostle says it's future:

Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Rom 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Rom 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

 

Once again the false and unbiblical claim is regurgitated upon thread after thread. No one has received the full benefits of our "sonship" because we are waiting for Christ's return, Romans 8:23

 

Romans 8:15 (correctly translated)
For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a Spirit of promised future sonship benefits as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!”

Note, no mention of the "a" word...

 

Please stop denying our future bodily redemption has been mistranslated as adoption. I am discussing our promised future benefit of being a child of God, to wit our bodily redemption, Romans 8:23.

 

This is an unfortunate translation; in fact a mere paraphrase, however well intentioned.

The best scholars translate Romans 8:15 this way:

Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

 

I get your frustration, but adoption IS the future bodily resurrection.

 

I am discussing our future bodily redemption, so for you to claim I am hijacking your thread if simply yet another falsehood.

Here is what you said in your OP: To deny that there will be a future bodily resurrection of the dead is to reject the great hope toward God that the entire Bible sets before all people.

 

OK Salty, I will stop posting.

 

How we not be adopted and yet still be saved then?

 

So what exactly is a “body” in this context?

I agree that scripture seems clear that our bodies will be raised “on the last day”, but it also seems clear that our body will be transformed from its present “perishable” state to an eternal “imperishable” state.

If the events of Jesus body post-resurrection are any indication, then our new body will interact with time, space and matter differently than our present bodies do.

• So how “different” can a “body” be and still be called a “body”?
• Is it fair to call a body that walks through doors and appears and disappears from a location a “Spirit”?