Blacks and Jews are merely good while the Europeans are the best in the above statements.
That's like saying "Dogs are brown, cats have stripes and birds eat worms"; in other words, sometimes these are true and sometimes not. When you speak in superlatives, I'd have to say "not" more than "is".
That really didn't answer my question - do you really believe these things or do you just enjoy hyperbole?
Iran issues stark military warning to United States
Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by Ps104_33, Apr 15, 2006.
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Oddly, as much as I object to Ps104_33's refering to Iranians as "sand crabs", I agree with your characterization of the Taliban as "satanic cockroaches".
Then again, some people just might really believe it. I'm not going to assume any one is that way unless they convince me of it. -
Daisy,
Maybe I misuderstood your comments, but there are many, in their sad state of confusion, who actually think we are the evil ones in these military conflicts were enter into. Of course thats not the case. We are the "good guys", and everyone should have the good sense to understand that.
For many, their objectivity is dulled due to being in a "pity party" because most Americans had the good sense to reject Gore and Kerry in favor of President Bush.
In their unhealthy loathing of our president they are led to post some of the silliest nonsense imaginable and they actually think it makes sense.
I may have taken something you said the wrong way. If so I apologize. But I thought you said something about the United States of America being the ones who are looking for human beings to exterminate, rather than seeking to liberate them from those monsters who engage in such things.
Sometimes I can "jump the gun" I guess.
Mike -
Now that we are there, having destroyed the civil order and opened the country to foreign terrorists and local gangsters, we are obliged to restore order and rebuild. It isn't easy and I admire the troops who can gain the trust and cooperation of the local people. I hope our civilian command will listen and back up the guys on the ground there who know what is going on in their particular areas.
In fact, I think you'll do better by explaining why you believe what you do than by trying to convince me that I'm wrong when you don't fully understand what it is that I do believe (sometimes I don't know myself). I'd also find it interesting to discover what we do agree on. -
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Did you watch any of the NCAA tournament? What do you make of the fact that the starting 5 on just about every team was black?
Is it wrong to stereotype people in a positive way? Dont you think that there is something to stereotyping? Cmon. -
On the positive side, a stereotype may serve as a point of reference in understanding - how much is this person or these people like the stereotype and how much different and what accounts for the similarities and variations.
That really didn't answer my question - do you really believe these things or do you just enjoy hyperbole? I don't know you well enough to tell when you're serious and when you're playing. -
I don't think this is a threat to be taken lightly. They aren't nearly as stupid as some would like to think.
I would suspect that these statements were aimed at the Iranian people to evoke nationlism and to Muslims worldwide to create unity against the US and west.
That said, his threat is serious. The Iranians probably have missiles that can hit our troops in Iraq. The probably have the ability to produced a dirty nuke or chemical weapons already.
Daisy alluded to the de-humanizing of the Iranians. Well, in reality, that is exactly what they are doing to us and Israel. The effort against Israel is calculated and to this point not popularly opposed in muslim nations. You would have thought that the denial of the Holocaust would have brought howls from "moderate" Muslims... If there have been any complaints, they've been muted.
You have to ask yourself: What is this guy doing specifically... as in his end aim? And also, how do you respond so that he can't get it? -
</font>[/QUOTE]There is really no need to be PC stupid when faced with incontrovertible, statistical FACT that for whatever reason blacks are on average faster and quicker than whites.
This is a serious issue that serious, scientifically motivated physiologists have been studying for years.
Here are some possibilities: http://www.science.smith.edu/exer_sci/ESS200/Raceh/Price2.htm
The sociology argument isn't a very good explanation since even black kids from well to do or firmly middle class upbringings demonstrate similar superiority. -
BTW, did anyone else notice that Daisy took offense at the suggestion that blacks might have genetic predisposition to superior athleticism... but what did she ascribe their success to?
The base elements in human nature of consumption and greed! Blacks become athletes because they lack the higher motives that cause someone to place value on things that aren't necessarily rewarding in terms of base cravings.
Her answer has far worse racial overtones than the contention that there are scientifically recognizable differences in black physiology. -
So Scott J, is your robe washed and ready for the next cross burning? This is the most racist garbage I think I have ever read.
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Every Iraqi who dared to oppose the Baathist regime was taking his life into his own hands. They were not "innate cowards." The same is true in other countries, such as Egypt and Syria (within the past few weeks). And if you strap a bomb on your back and explode it, you may be a lot of things, but a coward is not one of them. </font>[/QUOTE]I don't know if cowardice is the right term but they seem to think in a different manner.
I had an Iranian woman tell me two years ago that most people in Iran hate the mullahs and wanted freedom. I asked why they didn't unite and take a stand. The answer was "fear". -
There is absolutely nothing more racist about saying that blacks on average run faster because on average they have longer achilles tendons than there is in saying that red heads are on average more susceptible to sun burn and skin cancer due to generally being light skinned.
There are physical differences between blacks in general and whites in general. It is utterly stupid to call the recognition of that fact 'racism'. -
And let me guess....some of your best friends are black. Sheesh!
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MP you might want to re-read my post. I wasn't detailing a position. I was analyzing the direct implications of what Daisy said were possible reasons that blacks were more inclined to athletics.
After re-reading the post, I can see how you might have misconstrued it. -
Specifically she said: "That young star athletes are lavishly rewarded while talented mathematicians, physicists and poets pay their own way." -
Scott,
If I misread you, my apologies.
In any case, I don't discount that there are racial, gender, and other minor physiological differences among groups of people. However, some of these smack of stereotypical biases, and come off sounding horrible.
MP -
However, it is true that folks who have been victimized by continuous oppression (in the case of Iranians, under the shah and then under the mullahs) they can become adept at passive aggression, which does not necessarily represent cowardice but a realization that direct confrontation may be counterproductive.
It's true in Iran; youngsters flaunt western culture, partly because they like it and partly because it steams the mullahs.
It wasn't cowardly of American slaves not to rise in violent revolt (notwithstanding Nat Turner et al.) instead of passively-aggressively thwarting their masters' in everything from productivity to religion. When they thought they had a real chance of effecting direct change, they took it; hundreds of thousands enlisted with the Union army and fought bravely. -
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