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Iranian assassination ill-advised

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  1. asterisktom

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    Pompeo said that taking out the Iranian general made the world safer, and Americans in the area safer. The State department tells Americans to leave the area any way they can.

    Does no one see this contradiction?

    It is sad that so many Christians are totally behind whatever Trump does. He, instead of putting an end to our foreign involvements, is dragging us into yet another war.

    How can so many people not see through this man?
     
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    Another war? You sound like Putin. The Russians agree with the Dems & support Iran. Iran is too broke to start a war. They just have a thing in the Muslum world of not liking diplomatic missions or anything else. Some of those other big shots in Iran are wanted by Interpol for bombing an embassy & then a community center and murdering a lot of people in Buenos Aires.
     
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    President Trump is the best that we have had in my lifetime. Killing a terrorist like the Iranian general was a service to humanity, so I don't know why anyone would have a problem with that. On the other hand, I think I would be glad to see the U.S. divorce itself from foreign entanglements [ kick the U.N. out, seal the borders, stop foreign aid, take care of our own, restrict immigration, become self-sufficient, citizens can leave the country at their own risk, etc., etc., etc.] I don't know how practical that would be, but it would be nice to be able to pull back and mind our own business for a change
     
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    Tom,

    Things are not always as they seem and that applies to supposed contradictions.

    Lets us look at why the State Department put out a travel bulletin on Baghdad. Terrorism is a way of life in that area. Whether it is Al-Queda, ISIS, or Iran-backed Hezbollah; all these groups make their political points by blowing people up. Their targets are whatever gives them the most bang for their buck. So, naturally, Americans that are in-country are currently high-value targets. Secretary Pompeo had actionable intelligence that Iranian surrogates were ready to launch a terrorist attack(s) that could have resulted in numerous American casualties. The killing of Soleimani put Iran back on its heels. Of course, Iran will replace Solemani and probably push forward with a new target of opportunity but they have now been served notice that they will face more than just economic sanctions.

    How does the killing of Soleimani make the world safer? Iran is an exporter of terrorism. It never pays a personal price for all the horrors they bring upon innocent civilians. Economic sanctions have shattered Iran's economy but their leaders continue to live high on the hog. They are still pursuing nuclear weapons. Iran poses a real and credible threat to world oil supplies. Iran finally crossed the line one-too-many times when it recently launched an attack through one of its surrogates against Americans in Iraq. Enough is enough. The attack on Soleimani was not an Imperialistic action, it was self-defense and retribution. I doubt this will escalate into hot war directly with Iran. Iran cannot afford to fight the United States. If Iran was foolish enough to make a move against Amerian forces in the area, it would give the President cover to strike back and would you care to guess which assets Trump would order attacked? Iran's nuclear research and manufacturing operations. There would be no need to put boots on the ground in Iran. Overwhelming air attacks could significantly degrade Iran's nuclear program. Iran will be not want to risk that. This does not mean Iran is going to become a peace-loving nation that will sing Kumbaya with the rest of the world. Through its terrorist surrogates, Iran will remain a constant threat. But now Iran knows that it faces a new set of consequences for its actions.
     
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    Trump should seek enforcement of Interpol warrants against the Iranians guilty of 2 terrorists attacks against Jews in Buenos Aires in the 1990s: Ali Fallahijan, Mohsen Rabbani, Ahmad Reza Asghari, Ahmad Vahidi, & Mohsen Rezai. Argentina has issued 7 arrest warrants for Iranians, incliding Ali Akbar Velayati, once Iranian foreign minister. These thugs murdered over 100 and injured over 300.
     
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    I’m sure pallets of cash & gold was the answer. You are not capable of seeing this man. Hate blinds reason. I agree with Roy, Trump is the best in my lifetime, he followed the worst who is still working to destroy us.
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    I've got news for you, this is a war we were already in and have been in since the 70's.
     
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    Maybe the OP is true. But it's a certainty that Iranian generals operating in an unconventional warfare role in Iraq is ill advised.
     
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    First, prove he is dragging us into another war. Second, its not a contradiction. That man is responsible for the deaths of hundreds if not thousands of people. Lastly your indictment of christian Trump supporters as following Trump blindly is based on you flawed premise and unnecessary not to mention untrue. In your blind hatred of Trump you show your true heart.
     
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    Define "the area". Is the area that Americans will be safer in the very same area that they were told to evacuate? Then I might be able to take a shot at an explanation.

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    no, rather what we are now forced to deal with is how bad president Obama left the world stage for Trump, as Obama refusal to actually deal with Iran other than being a coward and weakling caused them to stay as premier world terrorists, so trump just getting around to cleaning up that mess Obama left him to deal with!
     
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    they have been burring our flag and chanting death to us and calling us great Satan since 1979 right? How has this changed?
     
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    Kicking out the Iranians

    "Some people have learned the hard way you don't want to get Donald Trump mad at you. The long overdue killing of Quds Force leader Qassem Soleimani may mark the final showdown in the long struggle for Iraq between the relatively pro-Western side and Iran's Shiite fanatics. The Middle East's ultimate bad guy, Soleimani was the author of all the death and terror the regime has exported to Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Afghanistan. The Obama folks forbade his killing, protecting him from Israel. Trump lifted this ban two years ago, but it took good old American firepower to get the job done.

    Not surprisingly, Soleimani played a major role in setting up the Iraqi government that collapsed last month amid violent protests by young Iraqis against the malign influence of Iran's mullah regime.

    With Soleimani out of the way, we need to push quickly for a new Iraqi government that will finally do the people's business, kick out the Iranian forces, and disarm their Shiite militia allies. The vast majority of the Iraqi people would support such an effort. The problem is, the Iranians have bought off or scared off all the politicians.

    While the Iranians are deeply unpopular, the U.S. has already gone more than the extra mile to keep Iraq a viable country. It's only because of U.S. support for the Baghdad government that Iraqi Kurds were unable to effect their independence two years ago. I would think President Trump right now is telling the Baghdad leaders this is their last chance. Get the Iranians and their militias out, or we do the unthinkable — revisit the post-WWI borders of the Middle East and recognize an independent Kurdistan.

    Given the last couple of months, does anyone not doubt that Trump now has his own ideas in the region and means business?

    As for Iran itself, we should do everything to support the current mass movement against the mullahs. The people there despise the brutal regime in power, and thanks to the economic sanctions Trump has wisely invoked, things will only get worse for the mullahs. Given the ease with which Soleimani was dispatched, I would think Supreme Leader Khamanei is now in hiding, lest a U.S. cruise missile with his name on it come calling. These creeps never learn, though, and once he thinks he is personally safe, he will no doubt feign cooperation while ordering terror reprisals, bringing on a wider conflict.

    For forty years now, ever since these despicable thugs took power in Tehran, the day of reckoning has been coming. Most American leaders, from Jimmy Carter to Barack Obama, have done all they could to ignore or appease the mullahs. But now ordinary citizens of Lebanon, Iraq, and Iran risk their lives every day fighting these terrible people. This new year may be the final nasty end to it all. We can only pray that it is.

    Frank Friday is an attorney in Louisville, Ky."
     
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    Is it unthinkable to you that Trump could be a godsend? Literally.
     
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    Trump is trying to clean up the really bad mess left by Obama in foreign affairs!
     
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