I don't know if I would call "date setting" a sin, but it is certainly in error since no one knows when the end is except God.
Is "date setting" a sin?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dale-c, Apr 24, 2009.
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Yes, it is going against what the scripture says.
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No, but it is just an error
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No, it is fine to set dates based on study and current events etc
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I am not sure, or other
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I still remember some 30+ years ago listening to a preacher boldly proclaim that "If anyone doesn't believe that the Lord is coming back in 1981, then they don't know their Bible!!"
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Matthew 24:36
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If you'll look carefully, you'll find date setters (who are always wrong) get other things wrong, as well.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
If it isn't a sin, it is surely a waste of time ... and wasting time probably is a sin.
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It's useless, certainly. Nevertheless, you can already see some associating between this Mayan calendar prediction of a world phase ending December 23, 2012, with other religions and Christian prophecy. And I just thought of something else interesting... if there are any who believe this and also believe the tribulation of 1260 days is before that date, just counting in my head, that brings to June 12, 2009, as the beginning of that span. That happens to be the revised date of FTC regulations mandating all televison broadcasts in digital. [uh oh, have I put some new 'prophetable' scheme into someone's head? :rolleyes:]
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August 10, A. D. 70
How's that for date setting.
John Gill
and they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. The Arabic version reads it, "ye shall see", as is expressed by Christ, in Mat_26:64. Where the high priest, chief priests, Scribes, and elders, and the whole sanhedrim of the Jews are spoken to: and as the same persons, namely, the Jews, are meant here as there; so the same coming of the son of man is intended; not his coming at the last day to judgment; though that will be in the clouds of heaven, and with great power and glory; but his coming to bring on, and give the finishing stroke to the destruction of that people, which was a dark and cloudy dispensation to them:
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About the Title: Throughout Christian history, bizarre fringe groups and well-meaning saints alike have been fully convinced that events in their lifetime were fulfilling Bible prophecy.
In The Day and The Hour, Gumerlock spans two thousand years of conjecture on the last days, disclosing the dreams and delusions of those who believed that their sect was the 144,000 of Revelation 7; that the 1290 days of Daniel 12 had expired in their generation; that the "Man of Sin" of II Thessalonians 2 was reigning in their time; that a Rapture of the saints, a Great Tribulation, a Battle of Armageddon were just around the corner; or that a Millenial Kingdom was about to dawn.
By exposing these erroneous predictions made century after century, The Day and The Hour encourages an approach of "cautious ignorance" concerning the date of the final coming of Christ and related events, and magnifies the truth of Christ's words that the day and the hour is indeed unknown.
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Date setting is not a sin, but a waste of time. However, I do think there is a difference in setting a specific date of the Second Coming, (which we do not know according to Scripture) and knowing if one is in the general time frame, such as the lesson of the fig tree. I have seen many posts here and there saying "Come quickly Lord Jesus" or "Redemption draws nigh, look up" after an election, or some event in the news, or some new law passes. The time and date is certainly not going to be tied to that, but when the Lord says enough is enough.
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Someone mentioned the 3 1/2 year (1260 days) as the 'second half' of the tribulation. That gave me another notion-- that the first half began amost right on the Summatra tsunami, which I thought was about Dec. 24-25, 2005. However, that was one year earlier... thankfully [ed. "thankfully" in regard to squashing the notion to think it figures in prophecy, not for the event itself] -
Jedi Knight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Jesus said only the Father knows.
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It will happen with its time for it to, just be found doing Gods work when it does. Thats about it.
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I do not know the day but I do know the hour when Jesus will return. It will be between 6:00 and 7:00 somewhere on this earth.
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