The brain is an organ in our body that gets sick also...
SFIC, how do you propose to doctor the brain as an organ?
Do you use the same philosophy as the JWs or Cultic faith healers that deny medical treatment to their children falsly believing that God will always heal them without the help of medicine?
How would you treat a brain tumor?
What about depression?
What about schyzophrenia (sp?)
All of these require medicine that affects the brain.
Is God a God of Double Standards?
Discussion in 'Polls Forum' started by standingfirminChrist, Jul 5, 2008.
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Your mind is clouded by the events of your life, so much so that you now espouse bad theology, that borders on cultic.
And all this time I thought Bush was the blame for all of America's problems! -
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To answer your OP about God having a double standard...
No, God does not have double standards...
But people with Standards that are based on their cultural upbringing instead of the full counsel of scripture, will have a torqued view of God's standards that when taken to the cultic extreme, wrap around on themselves thus trapping them into an either/or situation in which they cannot see the standard of grace... they end up blind, and ignorant. -
God does not want our minds clouded with alcohol or drugs. We are supposed to be sober and vigilant.
Children on ritalin and other mind altering drugs are not sober and vigilant.
My view on alcohol has not clouded my judgment on medicines, tim. My view on alcohol is exactly what the Word of God says, we are not to partake of it (Proverbs 23:31).
My view on medications is, if they alter the mind and cause one to not be able to think clearly and rationally, they are not to be taken. God does not want our minds clouded by drugs of any kind.
Nor does He want our minds deceived by those who would give us such drugs. -
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Tim,
Read James 5:14 in context. It is not the oil (which by the way is not drugs) that heals, it is the prayer of faith that brings about the healing.
Also, the anointing of oil was on the outside, not taken internally, and certainly not clouding the mind. -
From a book by Dr. Peter Breggin, M. D. "Talking Back To Ritalin:What Doctors aren’t telling you about stimulants for your children":
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Whatever...
Do you believe Fibermyalgia exists?
It is going to be ironic when one of your tag team develops some disease, like dementia, or Alzheimers, and the drs prescribe "mind altering" drugs..
Or you develop a disease in which you will need to take high potent pain killers....
If you stick to your guns and deny them I will really, really respect you.
But remember when the Dr. says "you need to take this", and you take morephine, or even Codeine, or anything that takes pain away, that says, "you should not operate heavy machinery" You will then be a hypocrite.
My guess is, you have already taken tylenol, Advil, or some other pain pill...
Yep, read the side affects.. if you take enough of them, they will alter your mind.
So please quit playing the righteous duo, and leave us alone.
BTW, if I knew someone was denying medicine to their children that the Drs said they need, I would personally report them to the CPS.
It is child abuse. -
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"PBS Frontline also did a five part TV series entitled 'Medicating Kids', which was specifically about ADHD. Fred Baughman and Breggin were the major critics used in this series.[11] In an interview during this time period he referred to ADHD as a "fiction".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Breggin
http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1256974&postcount=52
Please calm down. -
The following information is from
http://www.narconon.ca/morphine.htm
I will highlight the parts that may interest the readers to enable to allow them to see your ...uh... inconsistancy...
Remember you just admitted to taking this drug, but are condemning others for taking "mind-altering" drugs...
OK here it is...
I rest my debate...
You have no leg to stand on.
*edited to be a little nicer... I am sorry for getting this hot over an issue that really doesn't mean anything... -
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When you were asked about this before, you stated you did not get your perscriptions filled. I am unsure of why anyone would waste the Doc's time for him to write out perscriptions a person had no intention of having filled but whatever...
I only looked up one of your medications, as I know it has mind altering effects. Our Doc perscribed it for our teenage son's asthma. We have some here at the house. We monitor him closely in the rare instances he needs it, though it's probably not needed.
Albuterol Inhaler
Singulair 10mg
Advair 250/50
GENERIC NAME: SALBUTAMOL (ALBUTEROL) - ORAL DISK INHALER (sal-BYOU-tuh-mole)
Medication Uses | How To Use | Side Effects | Precautions | Drug Interactions | Overdose | Notes | Missed Dose | Storage | Medical Alert
USES: This drug relaxes the smooth muscle in the lungs and opens airways to improve breathing. It is used to treat asthma, chronic bronchitis, emphysema and to prevent exercise-related asthma.
HOW TO USE: Make sure you understand how to correctly use the inhaler device and the disks, and how this product is used with your other asthma drugs. Consult your pharmacist or doctor and read all manufacturer instructions carefully. Doses and frequency of use varies depending on your age and medical condition. Follow all prescription label directions exactly. When inhaling this product, take a fast, deep breath. Rinse your mouth after using to help prevent dryness and relieve throat irritation. Use this medication exactly as prescribed. Do not use it more frequently without your doctor's approval. Excessive use may result in decreased effectiveness and increased side effects. If symptoms do not improve or worsen after using this drug or if you find yourself using this more than usual, contact your doctor immediately.
SIDE EFFECTS: Dry mouth, irritated throat, dizziness, headache, lightheadedness, heartburn, loss of appetite, altered taste sensation, restlessness, anxiety, nervousness, trembling, and sweating may occur but should subside as your body adjusts to the medication. If these symptoms persist or worsen, inform your doctor. To relieve dry mouth, suck on (sugarless) hard candy or ice chips, chew (sugarless) gum, drink water or use saliva substitute. Inform your doctor if you experience: chest pain, pounding heartbeat, breathing difficulties. In the unlikely event you have a serious allergic reaction to this drug, seek medical attention immediately. Symptoms of a serious allergic reaction include: rash, itching, swelling, severe dizziness, trouble breathing. If you notice other effects not listed above, contact your doctor or pharmacist. -
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When Linda was given that morphine by the doctor she was in so much pain that they gave her the morphine without telling her what it was.
And she did not ask for it.
But guess what? She did not have the long-term side effects that Ritalin causes.
The morphine was administered as a one time drug to ease pain... not to alter her mind. And she did not get hooked on it.
As to the prescriptions the doctor gave me, Linda can tell you we came home from the doctors and brought the prescriptions with us. We did not even take them to the pharmacy that day.
Don't jump to conclusions as to if I am taking those inhalers or not when you do not know what I have done with them.
Inhalers are for the lungs, not the mind. They do not affect the mind... which God wants to be alert, not drugged. -
Gee, that reminds me of someone who once said, "I smoked but I didn't inhale"
Believe what you want...
I'm out of here. -
MISSISSIPPI CODE OF 1972
As Amended
SEC. 97-5-39. Contributing to the neglect or delinquency of a child; felonious abuse and/or battery of a child.
(1) Any parent, guardian or other person who willfully commits any act or omits the performance of any duty, which act or omission contributes to or tends to contribute to the neglect or delinquency of any child or which act or omission results in the abuse and/or battering of any child, as defined in Section 43-21-105 (m) of the Youth Court Law or who knowingly aids any child in escaping or absenting himself from the guardianship or custody of any person, agency or institution, or knowingly harbors or conceals or aids in harboring or concealing any child who has absented himself without permission from the guardianship or custody of any person, agency or institution to which such child shall have been committed by the youth court shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and upon conviction shall be punished by a fine not to exceed One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00), or by imprisonment not to exceed one (1) year in jail, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
Now I think we can put this issue to rest. -
Neglect
Citation: Ann. Code § 43-21-105
Neglected child means a child:
• Whose parent, guardian, custodian, or any person responsible for his or her care or support neglects or refuses, when able so to do, to provide for him or her proper and necessary care or support, education as required by law, or medical, surgical, or other care necessary for his or her well-being
• Who is otherwise without proper care, custody, supervision, or support
• Who, for any reason, lacks the special care made necessary for him or her by reason of his or her mental condition, whether said mental condition be mentally retarded or mentally ill
• Who, for any reason, lacks the care necessary for his or her health, morals, or well-being -
My children are both older than you are...and the Mississippi law doesn't apply here either. So posting all that Mississippi law stuff was a waste of time. Tim did say that anyone who withholds medications from their children is a "child abuser"...could have been in the other thread ... irregardless, anyone who says they would report someone to the CPS is calling that person a "child abuser".
Why don't you report me then?
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