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You are not making any sense. John 1:14. Luke 1:35. Luke 2:11. John 1:10. Galatians 4:4. Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

The Son is the only begotten of the Father. (That has nothing to do with the Virgin Birth. Mary was the mother of the child that was born, but not of the Son that was given.)

That is what is revealed in Scripture. You have to abandon your carnal reasoning. All power and authority is of the Father, and is given to the Son.

That's His own testimony. I didn't say it. He did.

[Edit: To be begotten of a man, means one has a beginning. God is not a man. The only begotten Son has no beginning.]

 

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Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:1 YLT Paul, an apostle -- not from men, nor through man, but through Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who did raise him out of the dead --

What does the word, " made," there even mean?

Is the Word made flesh some concept of a God person all knowing or of the very heart and intent of God, conceived of and brought forth by the virgin Mary, anointed with the Spirit of God, led by God the Father from birth.

Did the Word come from the right hand of God?

I think what I quoted to Van should have been here also.

 

Really?

John 1:14-18, And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. ... No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 3:16-18, For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ... He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 4:9, In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

 

The same word used in John 1:14 and in John 1:4. Like English word 'made' it has a range of usage. Now the Son of God, the Word being God always was and is.

 

Well, here is where your carnal reasoning is mucking everything up.

How was the Second Person of the Trinity known by the Other Two, "prior" to the Advent? ('Prior' is in quotes, because in eternity, there is no past, present and future.)

 

Good Grief, can you quote from scripture what is not in scripture! I am tired of these efforts to sidetrack actual discussion of the topic. I said scripture, not the OT! Stop with your blatant efforts at derailment.

 

Petty off topic posts are the stock and trade of false teachers.

 

Here again is my statement:

In the beginning was God in Three Eternal Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. There was never a time when God the Father Existed but God the Son did not exist. That claim, if made is unbiblical and wrong.​

 

This byzantine riddle, so to speak, simply disappears when we believe the declaration of the scriptures that Jesus Christ is the incarnational Son of God, not the eternal Son of God. He is the eternal Word of God, never the eternal Son of God. He became the Son of God when he was born of Mary...by definition. Servetus was right and Calvin was wrong.

 

P.S. not everyone who disagrees with us is a false teacher or a wolf. Those accusations are thrown around way too lightly.

 

"Servetus denied the Trinity" is a convoluted claim that would need clarification.

But, anyway, I said nothing about the Trinity. I said he was right about the incarnational Sonship of Christ.

 

You are conflating issues. I am satisfied that my very specific point has been made.
We can discuss the separate matter of Servetus' view of the Trinity (about which there is indeed doubt) in a dedicated thread.
All the best.