I am in total agreement with you Winman, the pages of scripture are filled with illustrations of man "resisting" and "refusing" God.
Is Irresistible Grace "resistible"?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by convicted1, Dec 16, 2010.
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Here is my quote:
Boice indicates that the term "Irristable Grace" is misleading...It does not mean that God drags you Kicking & Screaming into the kingdom. Boice prefers "Efficacious Grace" be used. -
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We have said repeatedly that God's grace is resistable until it is not.
We have said very clearly that all that man can DO is resist God's grace until God gives him a new heart.
We have said that irresistable grace simply means that man cannot resist God's grace when God gets ready to save. Hecertainly WILL resist it until then.
Winman posts a billion verses thinking that makes him the victor that say nothing agaisnt the Calvinistic doctrine of irresistable grace.
We are wasting our time saying it again and again when they refuse to get it. -
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Just drop it tonight, Im tired of this bickering nonsense. Most people dont enter into Reformed Theology readily unless they have researched it & have become very acquainted with the doctrines. I fought Limited Atonement & Predestination up until I had enough information & life experience with it personally. Others are born in it, as my wife was & then indoctrinated. Most are happy with their pastors, go to church weekly & pray to Jesus. Why then are there people on here bent on critiquing? Its just insane.
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Isa 63:7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD, and the praises of the LORD, according to all that the LORD hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses.
8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour.
9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.
10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
Isaiah speaks here of God's lovingkindnesses, great goodness, and mercy toward Israel. He was their Saviour, he saved them, in his love and in his pity redeemed them, bared and carried them.
Does that sound like grace?
And what did they do? They rebelled and vexed his Holy Spirit.
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Please answer the question, does Isaiah 63:7-10 show God showing great grace toward Israel? Did they resist it? -
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And try answering the question, did Israel receive great grace from God? Did they resist it? -
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And yet, they rebelled against God and vexed his Holy Spirit.
You just don't like the truth. -
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If you don't want to talk to me, that's fine. There are more than a few Calvinists here that have a strong dislike for me because I constantly present scripture that refutes it. That's OK, you are entitled to believe whatever you want.
I fully realize that many Calvinists are completely indoctrinated. But there are a few who can think for themselves. It is for those who want to truly know what the scriptures teach that I present these scriptures.
Now, I don't for one second think I know or understand everything about the Bible. But I know this, it clearly refutes Calvinism. -
Now, please represent the doctrine correctly. If it is wrong(and I know you think it is) then you should be able to accurately present the doctrine and not give a straw man. Looking at the title and giving a definition that no Calvinist would give you is a straw man.
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