Repentance becomes a false addition to the gospel unless properly defined as a synonym with faith.
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Is repentance needed for salvation?
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Hobie, Sep 6, 2020.
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They also place repentance "after" faith and understood it as moral “self-reformation.” They reverse the scriptural order of repent/believe/believe the gospel/faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. To the contrary we find:
Matthew 21:32 - For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.
Mark 1:15 - and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.”
Acts 20:21 - testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
*NOTICE THE ORDER.*
In regards to belief/faith, members of the church of Christ (and other works-salvationists) often fail to understand that there is a deeper, more substantive aspect of faith which is believing/trusting/relying in Jesus Christ for eternal life, and most cannot distinguish between mere intellectual or "mental assent" belief from personal faith that is trusting in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. -
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James 2:18
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
James 2:20
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
James 2:26
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Galatians 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
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Revelation 16:9-11 King James Version (KJV)
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds. -
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Revelation 3:18-19 King James Version (KJV)
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. -
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Scripture More Accurately Well-Known Member
God commands sinners both to repent (Acts 17:30) and to believe (Acts 16:31). Both repentance and faith are necessary for salvation. Both are gracious gifts of God.
Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
God grants people repentance unto life. Those who do not repent and believe will not be saved. -
Who are these hypothetical “some people”?
“Some people” wear aluminum foil hats to prevent the Aliens from reading their thoughts, but they are generally not people of influence. -
Therefore, repentance is what believers do. Non-believers do not repent because they do not believe there is any need to repent. -
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There are many who will say "Lord, Lord" and God will say "Depart from me, I never knew you." (Matt 25) -
Is it still not needed?
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Barry Johnson Well-Known Member
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It is about a fundamental realignment.
Is it about leaving something behind? Yes.
It is about moving towards something completely different. Yes.
Is it about making a choice to follow? Yes.
Is it about being irresistible drawn into a relationship? Yes. -
Guys of course Jesus was just joking when he went around telling people to repent cause he knew no one can repent unless he sticks his hand up your back and works you like a puppet. :Roflmao
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