Oh, wait, it was in English? Hilarious! ;)
Is the LXX superior to the MT?
Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Calminian, Jan 29, 2019.
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John of Japan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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John of Japan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Well, as fun as this has been, I can't sit around trading barbs all day. Taking the wife to our church's Valentine Banquet tonight. Toodleoo. :)
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Squire Robertsson AdministratorAdministrator
Be advised JoJ only has internet access in his campus office. So he is not online on the weekends.
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David Kent Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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David Kent Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
If we believe that many OT quotesin thr NT are from the LXX, can we assume that Jesus spoke in Greek? David Cloud thinks he did as he believes we have the actual words of Jesus recorded.
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RighteousnessTemperance& Well-Known Member
We’re in basic agreement. I’ll briefly point out some problematic wording that seems to contradict and which drew me into the discussion, then drop it, as it is unnecessary that I resolve it to anyone else’s satisfaction.:)
“86% of the time, the NT writers quoted the LXX which accurately translated the MT.”—JoJ, Post #72
Compare with:
“Here are some data from Old Testament Quotations in the New Testament, by Gleason L. Archer and G. C. Chirichigno. Their ‘Category A’ quotes ‘consist of reasonably or completely accurate renderings from the Hebrew of the Masoretic Text (MT) into the Greek of the Septuagint (LXX), and from there...into the New Testament passage’ (p. xxv). There are 268 quotes in Category A.” (see post #67)
They go from the Hebrew of the MT into the LXX and from there to the NT. Not possible, right? The truth is that the NT writers went directly with the LXX with no translation in these cases. And the Hebrew source(s) for the LXX do(es) not include the MT. So the wording is very misleading in both cases. And then I ended up using the same sort of wording which didn't help any. -
RighteousnessTemperance& Well-Known Member
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Squire Robertsson AdministratorAdministrator
In the States, it pretty much a secular holiday. Commercial interests florists, candy makers, and the greeting card folks promote it heavily, It comes in a second behind Mothers Day.
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John of Japan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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John of Japan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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John of Japan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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John of Japan Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
What we are then left with is the fact that the MT was based on Hebrew mss which were extremely close to the Hebrew mss used to translate the vast majority of the LXX. And again, the LXX is a translation, and in some books is simply a bad translation. -
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David Kent Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I know of no bible believing church in this country that will celebrate any saint's day.
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