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Is the Penal Substitution Theory the most common theory throughout history?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by JonC, Mar 6, 2018.

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  1. JonC

    JonC Lifelong Disciple
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    My point is that I in no way belittled your degrees. You are making assumptions.

    That said, IF you believe that 1 John demands "propitiation" be defined as "bearing wrath" then I do question the validity of your credentials. We are talking about elementary things, about being faithful to the text first and then developing doctrine/theories.
     
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    Yes, I told you that I know what is involved in a MDiv. While I wish now that I had taken a route that included pastoral studies, I chose to concentrate on theology and Church history because that was/is my interest.

    The only reason I brought up degrees was to say that it is a basic principle to be faithful to the text first. You can determine that Christ propitiated God's wrath by bearing it, but you do not have the right to declare that 1 John demands "propitiation" be defined as "bearing wrath". It's sloppy work, period.
     
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    How about a 6-month moratorium on PSA?
    It exists from Genesis to Revelation.
     
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    So... obviously... if someone disagrees with you and your take on something in scripture, his training or credentials are inferior to yours or invalid altogether. Yeah... we see what side of the bread your butter is on...

    The Archangel
     
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    Wrath on Jesus right..... So you guys are saying at one point the Trinity was broken the unity ceased.

    You owe me 1000$. Don't have the money. Mom comes in and pays your bill, gives me 1000$

    Did I forgive your debt? NOPE. Simply had your Mom pay.

    I challenge/question God forgives no one under your understanding of penal substitution.
     
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