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Is your church one of the "True Churches"?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Wesley Briggman, Aug 9, 2020.

  1. Wesley Briggman

    Wesley Briggman Well-Known Member
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    How Two California Megachurches Kept Worshiping

    "During Sunday’s sermon, MacArthur suggested that churches that close are not true churches. “There has never been a time when the world didn’t need the message of the true church,” he said. “I have to say, ‘true church.’ I hate to think of that, but there’s so many false forms of the church. Let them shut down.”"


    "MacArthur on Friday acknowledged there are church members who might not feel comfortable at indoor gatherings or might want to wear masks and social distance. “We love you just the same in doing whatever the things are you feel safer in doing,” MacArthur said, noting that masks and water would be provided in the new outdoor seating, where the livestream was projected outside a seminary building."

    I do not know of any Christian churches in this area that have shut down. All have continued to have services by streaming or outdoor gatherings.

    I wonder if MacArthur considers congregants "...doing whatever the things are you feel safer.,," are true Christians?

    If Christ is among them, they are a "true church". The gathering place is insignificant.
    [Mat 18:20 ESV] 20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them."
     
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    Macarthur is right. We were lied to about Covid. Why are we cowering from a virus that is app 3/10th of 1% fatal?
     
  3. Sai

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    We have been told that this was coming. America was never mentioned in scripture and it will not be a surprise to see her declining up to the rapture. We are to comply with state laws if they do not violate the commands of scripture.

    We are commanded to not forsake the gathering together of the local church. If meeting outside is permitted by state law then go to church. We are warned not to be deceived, if believers choose to be deceived they will suffer loss of rewards. C19 is a hoax and a myth.
     
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    I think that the casinos of Las Vegas are true casinos, just sayin' :Alien:Alien:Alien
     
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    Depending on your church’s location, size, memberships age demographic, affordability of continuous sanitizing etc etc. Then Open up full meal deal or tailor it the needs you have and needs you can meet. But by all means don’t refuse to open Your church doors because of the govt. overstepping their authority and using their misleading propaganda to assist one side or the others political agenda.
     
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    A hoax? I lost 4 very good friends to it!
     
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    ok, but you dont know if the flu also would have killed them. The flu is a real disease, covid is a real disease, the hoax is that it is not much worse than the flu. And I read more and more people are testing positive but not dying and have no symptoms, this virus has become a lot less deadly. AND, I read if you had a corona virus COLD, then your protected from COVID, so makes sense the immune system is already activated for COVID then and ready to fight it off, so you have no or very mild symptoms.

    It would be a good idea to catch the common cold, that gives you some good protection from covid, since as time goes on, that probability steadily increases, covid should become much less of a threat, along with other factors working to make it less of an issue.
     
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    A hoax??

    I know at least 10 people who are dead from it and died without their families. I know scores of people who have have it - either suffering and then recovering or having no symptoms at all.

    I'll never understand people who say this issue doesn't really exist. A hoax.

    Perhaps a political mountain is being made out of a molehill - but the virus is genuine and people really do die from it.
     
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    Thanks again, Doctor Downey.
     
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    Yup. I work with a person who will refuse HCQ because Trump endorsed it. I told them that I admired them for standing on ideology all the way to the end. Meanwhile, I am going to learn to code in case Biden makes it to the Oval Office and brings back Obamaism.

    John MacArthur is popular with Young Earth Creationists because he defied the overwhelming majority of old earthers and went to Kentucky for a week and helped Ken Ham so if he wants to hold meetings, then I am proud to stand with him. I know that he has a terrible fight with Newsom.

    I think Hong Kong flu was as bad as this but the same hippies who are now calling for an extended lockdown were at Woodstock during the peak of the Hong Kong flu wallowing unclothed in the mud spreading STDs. Hippies didn't age well.

    MacArthur is right. Pharaoh is wrong.
     
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    Thank you
     
  12. Calminian

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    This sounds like fake news, especially the way it's worded. The word "suggested," sounds very suspicious, and up for interpretation, which is useless.

    MacArthur is making a strong case that the government restrictions are doing more harm than the disease, especially spiritual harm. The President made this same case, trying to make churches essential, he was was right. John Roberts and the liberal justices disagreed.

    The idea that MacArthur would say categorically that Church who chose to close are fake, seems absurd. I've never heard him say anything like this.
     
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    We have immortality until our works God has ordained for us on this earth is complete. Snap out of it.
     
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    I don't know anyone personally dying from Covid, but I do know people personally that died from the flu and pneumonia. I know people dying from cancer. I also know about some families falling apart during the lockup. Murders are way up. Assaults are up. Do you know anyone murdered, assaulted, divorcing?

    I'm surprise you know 10 people who have died from Covid though. You're first I've heard with a number like that. Very sad.

    I don't think Covid is a hoax. It's a real disease. It's dangerous to people with health concerns, not very dangerous at all to healthy people. The problem is, it's an election year, and so it's political. HCQ would likely be available over the counter right now if this wasn't an election year. Only Covid deaths are front and center.
     
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    No, you didn’t
     
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    I thought that only the Lord knew His own though?
     
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    < snip - subject discussed is closed>

    I work with 3 main hospitals in Honolulu. I have spent about 65 days in the last 5 months at each one. I haven’t gotten sick and none of the workers at those hospitals have gotten sick either.
     
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    Don't know. Wasn't my argument. I think we should let the issue die for a while, though.

    Ah, that explains it. Have you been tested? You may have had it, just not realized it.
     
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    Philippians Chapter 1 is a comfort to me. It reminds me that to suffer for Christ is our duty and glorifies Christ.
     
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    The last thing I’ll do is get tested.
     
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