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    Christ has already died their second death !

    Those who go into perdition are going into the second death Rev 20:14

    And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

    This second death is no more than the wages of sin, for the wages of sin is death Rom 6:23

    23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Ezk 18:4

    Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

    But the good news for some is this Isa 53:12

    Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

    In this, His Soul was as if it was the souls of Many, the many he bare their sin, and His death was as to say the death of many, even the second death of many for the wages of their sins !

    Listen, the Eternal Wrath and Damnation and Suffering for sin that their sin/sins deserved, has been accomplished by Christ. Yes Christ their Mediator Surety, for those He specifically died for, has in His Own Soul and Body, bare the punishment, hell, second death, torture of soul due to the sins of all those He died for, God's Elect, His Sheep, the Church !

    The giving/pouring out of His Soul Isa 53:12 was and did include the Second Death .

    This said, for any that Christ died for to be part of these Rev 20:12-15

    12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

    13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

    14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

    15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

    For them to be one of any of those to be cast into the Lake of fire, which clearly is the second death so says Vs 14 , it would be Injustice on God's Part and a disregard for what His Son endured already for those He died for !
     
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    Saved by His Life !

    Rom 5:10

    10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

    Christ the Son of God died the death of a Testator Heb 9:16-17

    For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

    For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

    So the Death in Rom 5:10 was that of a Testator ! Because of this, when He died, He was to bestow an Inheritance to all His Donees or Legatees !

    These are also called Gifts, as part of their Inheritance. The Testator however in this matter, did die, but also rose from the dead to Live forever more, and in His Life He makes sure that all the Legatees receive of their Inheritance.

    Now as a Down Payment that they come into the full possession of their Inheritance, He begins by giving them the Spirit, hence Paul writes to them in the Ephesian letter Eph 1:13-14

    13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

    14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

    Understand that its the Holy Spirit of promise here that Paul identify s as the "earnest of our Inheritance" !

    Listen, the Spirit is the earnest, pledge. Its the word arrabōn:

    I.an earnest

    A.money which in purchases is given as a pledge or downpayment that the full amount will subsequently be paid

    Its the down payment of their Eternal Inheritance Christ has secured for them through Redemption, so the writer of Hebrews writes:

    Heb 9:15

    And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

    Heb 9:12

    Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

    And to show that this Eternal Redemption /Inheritance is already theirs, He gives all the legatees a down payment pledge, the Spirit of Promise !

    The Legatees have always been Sons, so they receive the Spirit in their hearts Gal 4:5-7

    5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

    6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

    7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

    Because Christ was the Testator, and they were His Legatees, they were Joint Heirs with Christ Rom 8:15-17

    15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

    16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

    17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

    Now remember the Spirit mentioned in Vs 15,16 is given as an earnest, pledge of a future Inheritance to be possessed !
     
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    Saved by His Life !2

    And so its by the Spirit our earnest that we come to Faith in Christ, the Covenant Testator who died for us ! Again, its important to understand that Christ's Death was the Death of a Testator Heb 9:16

    16 For where a testament/covenant is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

    Its by Him[The Spirit] we believe in Christ the Testator, He reveals Christ as the Testator/ Surety and Saviour !

    Thats why Paul tells believers they were reconciled to God by the Death of the Testator even while they were enemies, and having been reconciled, they shall be saved by His Life, which means, their now risen living Testator shall bestow upon them the Holy Spirit as an Down Payment of their Inheritance, to include the Spirit gives them presently Spiritual Life !

    All the Legatees shall be saved by the Life of their Testator Living to apply their Inheritance unto them !
     
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    It accomplished we being dead to sins !

    1 Pet 2:24

    24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    Now who are the We here that is dead to sin/s ? And what does it mean to be dead to sins ? Well the answer to the first question, The WE belongs to Believers in Jesus Christ, but also it belongs to all for whom Christ, in His Own Body and Self bare their sins !

    Thats absolutely right, for it was solely in the fact that He bare their sins in His own self and Body that resulted in them all being dead to sins !

    Now exactly what does it mean to be dead to sins ? It means that they are dead to the condemnation that their sins bring. Sin brings condemnation Rom 5:18a

    18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

    The word condemnation, the greek word katakrima:

    punishment following condemnation, penal servitude, penalty.

    "the results of judgment") – properly, the exact sentence of condemnation handed down after due process (establishing guilt).

    All for whom Christ died are dead to all the condemnation and penalty of their sins !

    The reason being, His Death for them, and in their stead, took on all the punishment, condemnation their Transgressions deserved for sinning against God's Law, His Justice has been forever satisfied in their behalf ! This is the Truth so much so, that even as enemies and unbelievers, they have been reconciled to God by His Death Rom 5:10

    10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

    Notice how Paul tell believers such as his self, that they were reconciled to God when ? When we were enemies, or to say unbelievers ! Thats because they were made by His death, dead to sins !
     
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    It accomplished we being dead to sins ! 2

    Now because Christ bare our sins in His own self and body, the sins we commit in adam, and from our own natural births , they have no power to condemn us before God's Law and Justice, all transgressions of theirs has been taken away, removed from before God's Law and Justice Ps 103:12

    12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

    Now the purpose of being dead to sins, is so that by New and Spiritual Life granted by Divine quickening from spiritual death, is so we may live unto Righteousness 1 Pet 2:24

    24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that[hina purpose clause] we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    To Live unto Righteousness means to Live by Faith. The word live zao means:

    to live, experience God's gift of life. That Gift of Life is New Birth,

    It also means:

    to live, be among the living, be alive (not lifeless, not dead):

    See God cannot be the God of the dead, but of the Living Remember these words Matt 22:32

    I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

    So hear this, the consequence of being dead to our sins by the Death of Christ, and not having sins charged to us, which death is the wages of Rom 6:23

    23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Then our death must be reversed, its been eliminated, or abolished for us by the Death of Christ, so death in all of its phases, spiritual, eternal, and natural must be reversed into Life, We must be made alive , to begin with Spiritually, this life must be granted us in the way of Justice, and by it we live unto Righteousness !
     
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    Christ has already died their second death !2

    1 Cor 15:3

    3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

    Now inclusive in the phrase of Truth, Christ died for our sins, is the second death, in the lake of fire ! Remember John wrote Rev 20:14

    And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

    Rev 21:8

    But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    This is that Eternal Retrobution of Wrath for sins Eph 5:5-7

    For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

    6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

    If you notice whoremonger and idolator are also listed in Rev 21:8 as those who go into the second death !

    Now, those Christ died for, He has already for them endured God's second death for their sins. The Second Death and Eternal Punishment which should have been their lot with the children of disobedience, has already been done for them, in Christ's dying for their sins. Christ in a short while equivalently suffered all the wrath God's Elect deserved for an eternity, so think how extremely intensified His Pain and Suffering was ? It would have been unbearable lest He was also an Infinite Being, God Man ! It would be Unjust now for any for whom Christ died to be in the number of those who go into the second death ! Because their Surety has already endured it for them, to the Praise of God's Eternal Justice ! I'm indebted to Tobias Crisp in his Book " Christ Exalted " Pg 379-80 for some of these thoughts !
     
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    Christ had a end in bearing our sins !

    Christ had a end in bearing our sins ! Christ's Death had a purpose to effect, it was not that He should die for sins, then set back and see what happens of it.

    It is written that He bare the sin of many Heb 9:28

    28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Isa 53:11-12

    11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

    12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors

    And it was to this end, that they be made Holy Eph 5:25-26

    25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave[or offered as in Heb 9:28] himself for it;

    26 That Hina Purpose he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

    The word sanctify hagiazo means:

    I make holy, treat as holy, set apart as holy, sanctify, hallow, purify.

    [37 (hagiázō) means "to make holy, consecrate, sanctify; to dedicate, separate" (Abbott-Smith).]

    This purpose must be a result of Christ giving of Himself for those He died for, or of those whose sins He bare Heb 9:28;Isa 53:11-12 and if not, a main element for the purpose of His death for them has been aborted, a miscarry, which is Blasphemous to even surmise !
     
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    Ransomed out of unbelief !

    Many today dont realize [because they are spiritually blinded] that unbelief/disobedience is part of God's Justice for sin; hence Paul writes God has concluded [in Justice] all in unbelief/disobedience , for the purpose of having mercy upon them all Rom 11:32

    32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all

    32 God has ·given [imprisoned] all people ·over to their stubborn ways [L to/in disobedience] so that he can show mercy to all.EXB

    The word concluded does mean to consign, shut up, or to imprison, so by nature all men , including the Elect, are imprisoned by God into unbelief/disobedience !

    The all in Rom 11:32 are all the Vessels of Mercy, like as in Rom 9:23

    23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

    God imprisoned the Vessels of Mercy into unbelief so that He can demonstrate upon them His Mercy !

    Now Christ came to give His Life a ransom for many Matt 20:28

    28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

    Now the word ransom lutron means:

    the purchasing money for manumitting slaves, a ransom, the price of ransoming; especially the sacrifice by which expiation is effected, an offering of expiation.

    literally, the ransom-money (price) to free a slave. 3083 (lýtron) is used in the NT of the ultimate "liberty-price" – the blood of Christ which purchases (ransoms) believers, freeing them from all slavery (bondage) to sin.

    The word above manumitting for slaves means:

    To free from slavery or bondage; emancipate.

    Now what all this means is all for whom Christ gave His life a ransom for, must be released from all servitude and slavery, imprisonment of sin and unbelief, disobedience.

    Yes this means the ransom must experience a liberation from the Justice of unbelief/disobedience, because Christ's Life blood was the ransom payment that satisfied God's Law and Justice, so in Justice God authorizes and performs their release, this as a visible token indicating that Christ's Blood truly indeed was a sufficient payment for their release ! It was the Blood of the Covenant Zech 9:11

    11 As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.

    God would be Unjust to the ransom blood of Christ, if any for whom He gave His Life a ransom for die in their sins in unbelief Like these Jn 8:24

    24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

    Thats because they , if Christ died for them, should have been ransomed out of unbelief !
     
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    The work of Christ is Salvation !

    Lk 2:30

    30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,

    Little be it known, this statement is meant of the Death/Work of Christ, which means that through His Work is accomplished full Salvation for all Gods People; and no its not just a opportunity for Salvation, for that makes Christ's Salvation fall short of God's Glory, makes it only a Whimsical possibility, a wish, but its a Salvation that actually saves sinners from their sins 1 Tim 1:15

    15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    This means to actualize their Salvation from sin, anything short of that would be failure. The word Save is the greek word sózó:

    I save, heal, preserve, rescue.

    He rescues and preserves sinners from the penalty and power of sin ! He heals them ! How does He do that ? By His Stripes 1 Pet 2:24

    24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    That word healed iaomai

    I heal, generally of the physical, sometimes of spiritual, disease.

    to make whole i. e. to free from errors and sins, to bring about (one's) salvation:

    Bring about means cause to occur,effect, produce, cause to exist, and this confirms that He brings about the actualization of their Salvation and not a possibility !

    Lk 1:68-77

    68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,

    69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

    70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

    71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

    72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

    73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,

    74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

    75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

    76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;

    77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
     
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    The work of Christ is Salvation !2

    Today in false christianity/religion, Christ's Work has been reduced to only accomplishing a possibility/ chance for Salvation, leaving it up to man to make it an actual experience.

    The Death of Christ alone has effected into actualization the full Salvation of those He came to Save, His People Matt 1:21:

    That includes Redemption, Reconciliation, Propitiation, and Justification, and Sanctification with final Glorification !

    His Death was Authorized by God to save all for whom He died from the Penalty and Power of Sin, thats the meaning of Lk 1:71,74-75

    71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

    74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

    75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.


    To be saved and or delivered from our enemies ! One of the Prime Enemies is satan, the Devil, an adversary 1 Pet 5:8

    8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

    Now the word adversary antidikos means opponent, enemy, The Devil is one of the enemies of the People of God, those made in His Image and Likness ! It was first seen with his attack against the first of God's People in Adam and Eve, they were the Church at that Time, the Body of Christ ! Thats why Paul uses that incident in counseling with the Church at Corinth 2 Cor 11:2-3

    2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

    3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

    That is evidence that he was an enemy of the People of God from the dawn of world history.

    Now the devil, the serpent, satan is one of the enemies the people of God must be delivered from in order for Christ's coming to die and be our Salvation can be successful ! Lk 1:71

    71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;

    Satan was the enemy of Adam and Eve and hated them for God's Image sake ! Now, will those He came to be Saviour unto, be saved out of his hand ?
     
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    Made Righteous in Him !

    2 Cor 5:21

    21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

    Christ was made sin for us, which equates to His dying because our sins were laid to His Charge, Hence He died for our sins 1 Cor 15:3 !

    This scripture 2 Cor 5:21 moreso than any other, proves that those Christ died for, made sin for, that they are in Him, and in Him made Righteous ! He could not have died for us if there was not first a Legal Union so that He could be justly charged with our sins before God's Law and Justice !

    Now this being made the Righteousness of God in Him because of His Death, is accorded with Rom 5:19

    19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

    The word made here is the greek word kathistémi:

    I set down, bring down to a place; I set in order, appoint, make, constitute.

    "to set down as, constitute (Latinsisto), equivalent to to declare, show to be

    Now heres how it goes, because of one mans disobedience, that being Adam, many were made, constituted, shown to be sinners !

    The correlative is Because of one Mans obedience, that being Christ, many shall be made, constituted, shown to be Righteous !

    Yet the order is important, first the many are made or shown to be sinners, by Natural Birth, then later those sinners are made , shown to be Righteous by Spiritual Birth, thats why it reads they shall be made Righteous, because their natural being comes first, then their Spiritual being comes afterwards, they first must bear the image of the natural, before bearing the image of the Spiritual, a principal stated here 1 Cor 15:49

    And as we have borne the image of the earthy[Adam as sinners], we shall also bear the image of the heavenly[Christ the Righteous].

    So all them Christ died for, are made to be , shown to be, and declared to be Righteous by Christ's Righteousness imputed to them. The fact is, His dying for them, and His Righteousness charged to them, are corresponding blessings, one cannot be true without the other.

    This would mean that everyone Christ has died for is in Christ, because He having been made sin for them [denoting His death for them] they are made the Righteousness of God [by Imputation] in Him, so they are even in Him as unrepentant, unbelieving enemies, they are still in Him made Righteous ! This is a Gospel Truth that the perishing lost religious world does not believe !
     
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    It Promises Spiritual Life !

    Those Christ died for, He promised them Spiritual Life ! This is a Spiritual Truth that those not born again cannot receive ; However When Christ made this statement Jn 12:32

    32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

    The big if here that needs to be done in order for the drawing of all to take place is He being lifted up, referring to His Death on the Tree Jn 3:14

    14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

    And out of this Lifting up His Promise is that He will or shall draw all for whom He was Lifted up for unto Himself, and the drawing here is Spiritual Life.

    The word for draw, helko has a metaphorically definition :

    to draw by inward power, lead, impel

    Now in addition to the inward power being the Life of the Holy Spirit according to the Faith of Promise Ezk 36:27

    27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    And the Spirit is Life because of Righteousness Rom 8:10

    And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

    The Spirit gives Life to all whom Christ died and made Righteous Rom 5:19, because Christ's Righteousness has been Imputed, Life is given in recognition of it !

    Prov 12:28

    In the way of righteousness is life: and in the pathway thereof there is no death.

    Christ's Righteousness Imputed is the way of Life !
     
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    It Promises Spiritual Life !2

    Jn 12:32

    32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

    More now on the word draw helko :

    II.metaph., to draw by inward power, lead, impel

    We are establishing why to draw equates to Spiritual Life, and why Jn 12:32 is in fact a Promise Christ makes in giving Life as a result of His being lifted up, meaning His Death, for all whom He was lifted up in behalf of !

    As a result of His Death for the many, that many shall be made Righteous Rom 5:19 and thats imputed Righteousness, and where there is Righteousness, The Spirit for Christ's Sake gives Life Ezk 36:27

    27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    That gives the inward power ! Now the word impel denotes motion which denotes movement, which denotes action and or lively activity which of course denotes Life !

    This is the Life He promised the World of His Sheep Jn 6:33

    33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

    Thats the result of His coming down, was to give Life unto the World, Spiritual Life !

    Also to the same purpose we have Jn 10:10

    10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they[The Sheep World] might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    This life which is by the Spirit because of Righteousness, because of His Obedience unto death, is the drawing power and impelling spken of by Jesus in Jn 12:32, promised if He be Lifted up from the earth, which He was !

    The drawing to Christ is into a life of intimate fellowship with Christ, as His Bride says in Canticles 1:4

    Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee.

    The drawing produces Spiritual activity, the running after Christ !

    This espousal drawing and running to Christ is the result of having Spiritual Life. That drawing is that Life in action that He came to give His Sheep Jn 10:10;6:33 and it comes as promised as a result/effect of having been lifted up from the earth, signifying His Death on the Cross !

    If any for whom Christ died do not receive Life to come to Christ into His Fellowship 1 Cor 1:9 then Jn 12:32 and Jesus promise there is a Lie !
     
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    It Promises Spiritual Life !3

    Jesus said as an consequence of being Lifted up [His Death upon the Tree/Cross] Jn 12:32

    32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

    Now in the original the word men is not there, so it reads basically :

    32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all unto me.

    Now whoever the all are, they will be drawn to Christ ! We do know for sure, the all are of those He was Lifted up on the Cross in behalf of !

    Now I believe the all are the Sheep or His Sheep and heres why. Jesus basically says the same thing here in Jn 10:16

    16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them[Other Sheep] also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

    Notice, the Other Sheep He must bring ! The word bring here is key to our understanding and how it relates to Jn 12:32, its the word , a verb
    agō:

    II.to lead,

    A.to lead, guide, direct


    B.to lead through, conduct to: to something


    C.to move, impel: of forces and influences on the mind

    And the word draw in Jn 12:32 is the greek verb helkō:

    II.metaph., to draw by inward power, lead, impel

    They are basically the same definition, To lead and or to impel. The impelling is by inward power that has a persuasive influence on the mind !

    The word helko also means :

    I drag, draw, pull, persuade, unsheathe.

    And may I add that the idea of Faith is to persuade ! The common greek word for Faith is pistis:

    which is from peithô which means:

    persuade, be persuaded") – properly, persuasion (be persuaded, come to trust

    And so thats what the drawing in Jn 12:32 entails as a result of Christ being Lifted up. They all for whom He was lifted up in behalf shall be persuaded into Faith/ Trust !

    How will He persuade them into Trust ? By the Power of the Gospel Eph 1:13

    13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

    In the original the word Trust is not there, it was added by the Translators, but the verb pisteuó/believed is which means:

    I believe, have faith in, trust in; pass: I am entrusted with.

    to think to be true; to be persuaded of; to credit, place confidence in;

    So Jn 12:32 is a standing Testimony from the Mouth of Christ Himself stating that all for whom He died shall come to Faith in Him, for as it is written, The Just shall Live by Faith ! Everyone Christ died for shall be made Just/ Righteous Rom 5:19 !
     
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