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It's from Egypt; it MUST be Bad

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Dr. Bob, Nov 7, 2004.

  1. Dr. Bob

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    THOUGHTS FOR DISCUSSION:

    Some of the STRONGEST churches in New Testament history are from North Africa. Egypt/Alexandria was a center of Jewish, then Christian study.

    I praise God for Alexandria, home of Apollos, home of Barnabas, guardian of the Word.

    Egypt is NOT all bad. Examples of GOOD?

    Can anyone say "racism"? It is rampant in the "only" position of English supremacy, but this villification of Egypt is too much to be coincidence.

    Your turn.
     
  2. Daniel David

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    God sent his only begotten Son to be protected in Egypt. He also sent his only pure word to be protected in Egypt as well.
     
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    Racism is all over the world. It is evident by how the people treat those who were once slaves or viewed as a lesser class.
     
  4. natters

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    Act 18:24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
     
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  6. Anti-Alexandrian

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    Care to back that up with Scripture??
     
  7. Dr. Bob

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    70% of the OT quotations in the Gospels are from the Septuagint, translated and preserved in Alexandria. Every one of those verses "back up" that contention.

    Unless you are part of the looney-tune that denies the Septuagint. That seems to be another wild allegation of the only sect.
     
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    BTW, Anti-A, which of the 26 ancient cities named "Alexandria" are you opposed to? Or which "Alexandrian" are you anti?

    I've seen some odd handles, but never mentioned to you before how absurd your handle is. I'm thinking of changing my handle to "Anti-Klingon". :eek:
     
  9. Phillip

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    Very interesting reply! [​IMG]
     
  10. Phillip

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    Care to back that up with Scripture?? </font>[/QUOTE]Care to deny it with Scripture??

    Your face is going to be twisted out of shape if you keep that ugly frown.
     
  11. Bluefalcon

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    Can you name any strong churches from early Christianity located in Egypt before 180? That was the only point I was making. The critical years before 180 help unfold the rest of the history of the NT text, because the Greek manuscripts of this period are the ancestors of all that follow. The only thing mentioned in church history from before 180 concerning Egypt is that cults abounded there. Greek manuscripts from before the 3rd century (all of which are from Egypt due to its unique dry climate) are wild and far more inconsistent than the more stable texts of later Egypt, e.g. Vaticanus and Sinaiticus. Something happened to produce this stability, most likely though the giant leaders of Alexandria like Clement and Origen to begin with.

    Yours,

    Bluefalcon
     
  12. GeneMBridges

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    What I find disturbing is the insistence of the KJVO crowd that the Alex. MSS are "tainted" because of their association with the Roman Catholic Church.

    However, what they never ever own up to is the association of the Byzantine MSS with Constantinople. Uh, you remember, Constantinople, aka, Byzantium, you know, home of the Eastern Orthodox Church with its less than orthodox Trinitarian formula/Christology and all the other Catholic doctrines...

    Hmmm...
     
  13. Phillip

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    Obviously, the papermills (as the scribes were called) of the Byzantine documents published tons and tons of manuscripts and it is these that had obvious additions added.

    Jesus was shown to have quoted from the Septuagint according to Dr. Bob 70% of the time, according to my books 85% of the time.

    The despora were very careful with their manuscripts even in Egypt. A scribe was soooo careful not to "take away" from the Word of God for fear of God's wrath, but they had a tendency to add a clarification which often wound up in texts.

    Just obvious common sense makes the above statement more acceptable.
     
  14. av1611jim

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    Phillip;
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    The despora were very careful with their manuscripts even in Egypt. A scribe was soooo careful not to "take away" from the Word of God for fear of God's wrath, but they had a tendency to add a clarification which often wound up in texts.
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    This is a fallacy based on assupmtion. What makes you think they would not be equally fearful of ADDING to the Word of God?
    Deut. 4:2, "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you."
    Quit it!
    "Just obvious common sense makes the comment more acceptable "(even though it is untrue!.)

    In His service;
    Jim
     
  15. Phillip

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    Prove that it is untrue, Jim. You have NO evidence. You say I don't, but neither do you. It was well known based on FINDING old manuscripts with notes added, then finding later manuscripts with the notes included in the actual text. This is how we know about some of the additions.

    There was a feeling of trying to make the gospels harmonize. This has been proven historically by statements of scribes. I will dig them out if you wish and if I have time this week. I DO have a certain amount of evidence that certain additions have been added.

    Uh, just curious, but why do you call yourself AV1611 when no doubt you read an Oxford 1769?

    I know this is off thread, but just curious and not worth opening a thread on.
     
  16. Phillip

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    By the way AV1611jim (this is not debate just a note). I bought the Hendrickson AV1611 replica (although I have many REAL old Bibles from the era) and am reading it through, as Dr. Bob did.

    It is quite an experience and interesting. The marginal notes by the translators are particularly interesting, along with the multitude of mistakes in the sentences; but it is fascinating reading.
     
  17. robycop3

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    Then by A_A's standard, God didn't mean what He said to Isaiah when He called Egypt "My people" as recorded in Isaiah 19:25.
     
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    I think the KJVo's are getting mixed up in the fact that Egypt was used to typify evil in the Bible, though Egypt in and of itself was not evil, so therefore they place that belief on ANYTHING that comes out of Egypt is evil. Wow...what a concept...does that mean because Japan attacked us in 1941 that everything made in Japan is anti-American or meant to hurt us??? What a concept indeed....the workings of the Onlyists mind. :rolleyes:
     
  19. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Didn't Jesus come "Out of Egypt"?
     
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    Exactly, Brother. God called His SON out of Egypt...so I guess Christ was sinful and really couldn't have died for our sins....NOT!!! Can't these people see how flawed that thought process (logic) is? :confused: :rolleyes:
     
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