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Featured I've Decided I'm Going to Vote Twice for President

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by InTheLight, Jun 9, 2016.

  1. Alcott

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    That obviously means your answer is "yes." Why did you do it?
     
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    Go troll someone else.

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    So if you are not going to sit at that table - will you be going to the table to the North or the Table to the South?
     
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    ...or an imaginary table with imaginary food? [​IMG]
     
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    Man is standing in a bank, and the bank is being robbed. He has the opportunity to take out his gun, point it at the head of the robber, and stop the robbery.

    He does nothing. Because he thinks the bank is corrupt as well, and has no problem with them being robbed.

    Did his decision have any impact?

    Man is standing at the voting station, and can cast a vote for someone who will have a responsibility to conservative voters who are against abortion, or for someone who will likely advance the Pro-Choice movement.

    He does nothing.

    Did his decision have any impact?


    Sure, the same impact those who didn't vote for Romney because he was a Mormon had.

    Go vote.


    God bless.
     
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    Must be serving Kool-aid at that table...

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    Reagen and both Bushes had a responsibility to conservative voters, many of whom expected them to advance the anti-abortion movement.
    Many of us voted for those presidents, rather than do nothing.

    We still have abortion on demand.

    Your analogy fails.
     
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    You're almost as good a target as those other 2 billy goats.
     
  9. Darrell C

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    "Advance the anti-abortion movement?"

    Think about that, Don. What exactly does that mean? Less deaths? More people who don't...question whether murdering children is right or not?

    Let me ask you this: how many partial-birth abortions are being carried out today?


    Good job. You saved lives.


    We don't have partial-birth abortion, do we?

    Aren't you glad you voted for Bush, now?


    On the contrary, it stands.


    God bless.
     
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    I am not endorsing Trump, rather, voting against the Liberal Agenda.

    Who knows, the Lord may force Trump not only to grow up a little, but may use him for the betterment of the country.

    Did you vote against Obama in the last election? Are you happy with what Obama has accomplished?


    God bless.
     
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    Darrell is the perfect example of what I wrote in post #11.
     
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    Answer the question Don: do we still have partial birth abortion?

    Here's another: did your vote count then?


    God bless.
     
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    Still waiting.


    God bless.
     
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    The partial birth abortion ban was signed by President Bush in 2003.

    Do we still have abortion on demand?

    Now, here's the biggest fallacy with the point you're trying to make, and why you should go re-read post #11 one more time: what is your guarantee to me that Trump will make *any* progress on the abortion issue?
     
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    But we don't have partial birth abortion...despite your example...

    Was the anti-abortion agenda advanced?

    So you defeat your own reasoning in answering this question, though you ignore the second one, which will force you to conclude...

    ...your vote mattered.

    While abortion has not been abolished, we have seen "the responsibility to the conservative voter" bring about change that is saving lives.

    Your vote matters Don.


    There is no fallacy...the point stands and you know it.

    I make no guarantee concerning Trump, it is a matter of knowing that God has in past times used secular rulers to effect an improved condition for His people and people in general. In view are the people who were having their brains scrambled with scissors and then vacuumed out of their heads.

    Trump will have a responsibility to the Conservative voter, and this is one reason to vote against Hillary Clinton for. I am in no way saying Trump is a good candidate, or that he is a Christian, but only that our votes can make a difference.

    Post 11 does not change the facts. We live in a post 11 world, Don.

    ;)


    God bless.
     
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    Was it? One type of abortion banned since 1973?

    You misunderstand. I never said it didn't matter. What I said was, not voting for the same candidate as you, or Benjamin, or CTB, is NOT "throwing my vote away."

    The fallacy is exactly as I've pointed out.

    If you are willing to vote for a candidate that you cannot, in good conscience, say is a good candidate, or that he is Christian, then you are the epitome of what I wrote about in post #11.

    So I will vote, because I agree with you: my vote matters.
     
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    God has used sinful men to accomplish His purposes before. Why not now? Has God changed the way he does things?


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    What candidate are you voting for then Don? The imaginary one? You and ITL shop at the same place for glasses? Smoke from the same pipe or something? So you're with ITL and don’t like steak or eggs either?

    Okay, you guys refuse to sit at the only table available. You still have to eat and need food and have one bullet in your gun. You have a vulture laying an egg to your left, a cow to your right and the skeletal remains of a Doo Doo Bird in the middle. You say I don’t like vulture meat and I especially don’t like beef so I’m going to shoot at the Doo Doo Bird. I say you will throw away your one shot, it’s a worthless shot, and it has no value to you whatsoever. Then you’re left with a vulture egg to eat at best, unless someone else takes the responsibility to go for the cow and gives you some…You can claim the value is in moral consequentialism with ITL but the logic of taking that shot still decides for you that you eat the vulture egg, so the consequence to come was obviously your logical "moral" choice. Denying the simple logic isn't anymore reasonable than ITL suggesting he'll go to another non-existent table for doughnuts while thinking he can take 2 shots with 1 bullet. Just sayin. :)
     
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    Ok, so one's conscience ought to be ignored when it is politically convenient. Got it.
     
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    If you can spin that into a defeat or a step back in the fight for human lives...I'd like to know how.

    Proceed.


    Your statements do indeed say votes don't matter.

    I think it is you that needs to go back and read post 11.


    The fallacy is thinking that you are doing God a service by not voting.

    What do you think the Lord feels about partial birth abortion being made illegal?


    I would not be foolish enough to think any Presidential candidate is a good, or Christian candidate. But what I can do is look at the big picture and see that Hillary Clinton as President of the United States would be disastrous for Christianity, Abortion, Freedom/s (within which freedom we have liberty to preach the Gospel), and pretty much anything that might return this nation to a more conservative public voice.

    For you to say that voting for someone to help ensure that doesn't happen is illogical and foolish. You might give some thought to your questioning whether banning partial birth abortion was a step in the right direction or not.

    Your reasoning on both are identical, and illogical.


    No, Don, vote because you care about Christianity, Freedom, and abortion.

    Trump will have a responsibility to conservative voters, which is one way in which the Church still has an impact in this world. He will likely want to rerun in four years as well, so for at least four years we might see a reversal to the Liberal Agenda that is working towards that goal where the day will come when you and I will not be able to come on a public forum and speak our minds.

    Now tell me this: was the banning of partial birth abortion an advancement or not?

    If not...explain.


    God bless.
     
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