Jerry Walls Refuting Calvinistic Soteriology

question. God knows all things, right? Then WHY would He desire the salvation of all the wicked, regardless of whether they accept Him of not? WHY would He even ask them to turn from their wicked ways and seek salvation, IF as you think, that Jesus only died for the "elect"? Surely this makes God insincerein what He desires, as He knows full well that He will not "draw" the ALL to Himself? This is exactly what Jerry is saying in the clip, that Calvinisim makes God out to be a liar!

 

Straw man as always. Never said they couldn’t keep “part” of the Law. That’s not the standard required by God. He required they keep all of it, perfectly, knowing they couldn’t keep all of it perfectly.

If God responds to what a person does in granting salvation, it is works salvation.

If a person response to what God has done in intervening in their lives by Holy Spirit, convicting them of the truth of the gospel and drawing them into a loving relationship with Himself, you have grace.

peace to you

 

see, your own strawman! Read Jonah 3:10 in the KJV, " And God saw their WORKS, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not."

But these "works" referred to are not what the reformed think, that "merit salvation", but, as the verse explains "THAT THEY TURNED from their evil way". These DID something, as they responded to the preching! Like when those who heard Peter on the day of Pentecost, what happened? "Men and brethren, what shall we DO?" (2:37). Peter did not say to them, "do nothing", he said, "REPENT" (verse 38). Reformed theology cannot accept the Bible for what it really says!

 

On and on folks, were there any OT saints who did their best to keep the law? Of course, read Hebrews 11.
Salvation through or by reason of faith is not works, Romans 4.
Did anyone say people are not saved by grace through faith? Nope so the person posting "straw man" using "straw man" in the same post. I kid you not.

 

Yes, God knows all things. God is omnipotent. God is not insincere in anything He does.

God would rather the wicked turn and have salvation. He would rather all respond to the gospel. They, we, all turned and rejected God. That doesn’t reflect badly on God’s character, it reflects badly on ours.

That God has mercy and doesn’t leave those He has chosen to die in sin is a testimony to His grace and His love.

peace to you

 

It was never a question of eternal salvation.The people of Nineveh were spared an immediate destruction of their nation.

God later used them to destroy the Northern tribes of Israel.

peace to you

 

will you ever tell this when you witness to the lost, that there are only a few that God has chosen because He loves them more, and the rest He has chosen to leave to hell, because He also loves them? if the reformed do not preach this, then their "gospel" is a lie!

 

what utter rubbish! the people TURNED FROM THEIR EVIL WAYS, which is, REPENTED OF THEIR SINS.

WHY is it so hard and painful for you guys to accept that GOD WANTS EVERY HUMAN BEING TO BE SAVED???

 

Seriously, I have spoken with drunkards w a better understanding of God than Jerry and evil men w more respect for God

Think Im kidding around?

I spent 6 yrs preaching at the Union Rescue Mission in Mphs

 

And he fires back with irrelevant, random verses.


No matter how you slice it, the noncalvinist argument will always boil down to his unbiblical notions of justice. In one form or another, your argument will be, Why doth he yet find fault, for who hath resisted his will?

 

“You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did." (Acts 7:51)

 

so you mean that you cannot refute what Jerry says! :Laugh:Roflmao

 

Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

Knowing man's predisposition to carnal notions of justice, Paul anticipated your argument: Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

And, that is the crux of your argument.

Every time.

And it's the whole argument in your video. But Paul fell that with one little verse.

 

and where exactly does it say in these words, that God will have mercy on just a few? You guys just keep forcing the Scriptures to fit your silly theology!

 

Not in my KJV!... So what does scripture say?... Brother Glen:)

Romans 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

9:25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.

9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

 

exactly WHERE does it say in this passage that Jesus only died for the elect? This is an abuse of this passage by those who hold the reformed heresy of election!

 

If God's will is to allow people to believe fully in Christ or not, then to believe or not is according to God's will. What these Calvinists are doing is claiming God's will is to compel salvation via irresistible grace, which is false doctrine. God's justice is perfect because He allows people to believe in Christ or not. If God, as Calvinism claims, made individuals unable to believe, then punished them for not believing, God would be the God of Calvinism.

 

Correct.Carnal philosophy does not refute truth.
Truth stands regardless of his emotional philosophy.

 

No validity here. We should not blame God for mans sin.God has purposed to save a multitude no one an can number.
This ungodly assertion is rejected.

 

But it certainly clarifies it.