I notice no biblical support as you have your selfish tantrum.
Biblical support has been shown to you and utilyan regarding God’s limited atonement, yet you dig your heals in and reveal the obstinate heart of one who refuses to believe what God has clearly told us.
JOHN 3:16 - FOR GOD SO LOVES THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Saved-By-Grace, Aug 17, 2017.
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Not excusing our OP brother for "getting in the flesh" but.........
A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. proverbs 15:1 -
You see, in the Book of Numbers, God told Moses to make this serpent on a pole and God said that whoever simply looked on the serpent would live and not die from snakebite. But I don't recall reading in there where Moses, Aaron, God or anyone dragged any of those snakebitten folks over and glued their eyeballs to the thing. They just believed what was told them, turned their heads in the general direction, focused both eyeballs on the thing and LIVED! :) Anyway, Jesus used this to illustrate how salvation happens! Let's read it again.....
Jesus speaking.......
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:14-15
We're all "snakebitten" from birth my friends. But God gives everyone a choice; look on Jesus and live, or die. He sets before us life and death, blessing and cursing, BUT He tells us all "choose life". The Way, the Truth, and the Life is only in Jesus Christ. He died for every man woman and child on this planet. That means every single person reading this. Jesus loves YOU! If you don't know Him, you are going to die in a place prepared for the Devil and his angels. He didn't die for just certain ones. He wants everyone to "choose life". But it's your choice. -
Katarina Von Bora Active Member
God is the author of morality, not you. He chooses who he chooses and you really don't have anything to say about it.
The Bible does not teach that men gain salvation by free will. People can choose to turn right or left, eat a burger or a steak by their own free will. But not salvation, and the Bible teaches that God chooses before the foundation of the world.
Stop trying to control God. It will not serve you well.
"If the election of the Father is not universal and the regeneration of the Holy Spirit is not universal why is the atonement of Jesus universal"? Shai Linne -
Answer: Those whom God makes alive and adopts as His children.
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Katarina Von Bora Active Member
Colossians 4:5-6English Standard Version (ESV)
5 Walk in wisdom toward outsiders, making the best use of the time. 6 Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person. -
All of you who are addressing ICHTHUSDOULOS, be advised you are addressing someone who is not here. He has been banned. :)
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