menageriekeeper
Active Member
Hey RB. Lets talk about Titus. 
vs 10: 10For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Has BioLogos been unruly? Do they seek to puff themselves up at the expense of others? Are they trying to draw men away from Christ, or merely find a way to reconcile science and scripture? (the fact that they may indeed draw men away from Christ, doesn't make this their intention)
Here's the kicker: Is BioLogos "of the circumcision??? It certainly seems as if Titus is battling the same old problem of Jews trying to mix OT law in with NT Christianity. But lets go on, cause I found some more interesting stuff.
vs 11: "for filthy lucre's sake." Oh my, these subvert whole houses for what? Money! Which organization in this discussion isn't making money off their products? Perhaps the pot shouldn't call the kettle black!
A little more:
vs 12 "the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies." Why that's hate speech at it finest. And Titus thinks this is bad. Umm, remind me again, which organization is using derrogatory language to further its monetary goal of selling more science cirric? (yeah, that was sarcasm)
vs 13 Titus gives the goal before he finishes the explanation: that the false teachers become solid in their faith.
vs 14: "Not giving credence to Jewish fables" <gasp> "commandments of men" that turn from the truth. Well, the truth that we aren't to turn from is Christ. That's clear enough. But what do you suppose Titus means by "Jewish fables"?
Now, again, I don't like the conclusions that BioLogos draws. I think they are twisting scripture somewhat in order to make scripture fit with the science (much the same way that Ham tries to twist the science to fit with his interpretation of scripture). That is bad, but considering it is Ham who fits most of Titus' description I think people are doing BioLogos a disservice to dismiss them as mere atheists who are subverting our children. If you don't like what they teach, don't go to their seminars (marketing speils) and don't buy their products.
The point is, pointing out that BioLogos is wrong, doesn't make Ken Ham right! He needs to step up and admit he could have handled his differences with the company in a better manner. (and the conference leaders need to allow Ham's products to be sold on the show floor)
vs 10: 10For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Has BioLogos been unruly? Do they seek to puff themselves up at the expense of others? Are they trying to draw men away from Christ, or merely find a way to reconcile science and scripture? (the fact that they may indeed draw men away from Christ, doesn't make this their intention)
Here's the kicker: Is BioLogos "of the circumcision??? It certainly seems as if Titus is battling the same old problem of Jews trying to mix OT law in with NT Christianity. But lets go on, cause I found some more interesting stuff.
vs 11: "for filthy lucre's sake." Oh my, these subvert whole houses for what? Money! Which organization in this discussion isn't making money off their products? Perhaps the pot shouldn't call the kettle black!
A little more:
vs 12 "the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies." Why that's hate speech at it finest. And Titus thinks this is bad. Umm, remind me again, which organization is using derrogatory language to further its monetary goal of selling more science cirric? (yeah, that was sarcasm)
vs 13 Titus gives the goal before he finishes the explanation: that the false teachers become solid in their faith.
vs 14: "Not giving credence to Jewish fables" <gasp> "commandments of men" that turn from the truth. Well, the truth that we aren't to turn from is Christ. That's clear enough. But what do you suppose Titus means by "Jewish fables"?
Now, again, I don't like the conclusions that BioLogos draws. I think they are twisting scripture somewhat in order to make scripture fit with the science (much the same way that Ham tries to twist the science to fit with his interpretation of scripture). That is bad, but considering it is Ham who fits most of Titus' description I think people are doing BioLogos a disservice to dismiss them as mere atheists who are subverting our children. If you don't like what they teach, don't go to their seminars (marketing speils) and don't buy their products.
The point is, pointing out that BioLogos is wrong, doesn't make Ken Ham right! He needs to step up and admit he could have handled his differences with the company in a better manner. (and the conference leaders need to allow Ham's products to be sold on the show floor)
