You mean that Jesus actually no longer had all of His divine attrubutes while earth?
Kenosis and divine attributes
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by AresMan, Apr 13, 2017.
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V 20 But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.
Jesus to whom she gave birth and who was conceived in her by the Holy Spirit was God in the flesh. Jesus was and is God in the flesh.
Questions.
Could the Holy Spirit, God, of whom Jesus was conceived in her, die?
Could the one conceived in her, and brought forth of her, Jesus the Christ, the Son of the living God, die?
In eternity past, how could God die, for the purpose of destroying the devil and his works, the sinner from the beginning, yet remain the eternal God?
Why not create a man in my image, subject him to, the death, take woman from the man and in the fullness of time, send forth the Son of God, born of her, with the promise of God, the hope of eternal life, who can give his sinless life, that is be the obedience of faith, and therefore receive the promise, eternal life, thus destroying the devil and his works, and redeeming the man subjected to, the death, the power of the devil?
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"Happy," what is the point of the geneaologies of Jesus in Mat 1 and Luk 3?
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Next, you can claim scripture does not say Jesus emptied Himself till the cows come home. Your rewrite is not supported by the NASB, LEB, ESV, NET, YLT and WEB. -
When I was young, I was a pretty good ping pong player. Almost nobody I played offered any challenge. So I started playing left handed. (I am right handed.) Did that make me any less Van? Of course not. Could I choose to switch hands and use all my expertise? Yes.
The argument that if God elects to not use some of His attributes while incarnate makes Him less than 100% God is ludicrous. -
It was necessary for Jesus to be "lawfully, according to mans law; be born of a Jewish woman".
David was a Jew. David was king and sat upon an everlasting throne. According to Jewish Law, ONLY, a Jew can "again" sit upon king Davids throne and be "king" of the Jews. Jesus accomplished being a Jew, when via the Holy Spirit, He came down from Heaven and entered Mary's virgin womb, to be revealed to the world, as a Jew.
The "genealogy" records taken primarily from Roman census records and Jewish Temple records would satisfy both Jews and Gentiles of Jesus' "earthly" law fulfillment of his Jewish roots and beyond to the Hebrews.
Jesus also fulfilled the LAW of nature; to be in a womb for 9 months and then revealed born of that woman, just as scripture teaches, He was born of Mary, according to the Law. -
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"Rewrite"? What "rewrite"? Perhaps you can help me understand that by answering this question:
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One meaning is usually obvious ~ the other requires one to have trust and rely on God for the understanding thereof...and often the very one that MEN philosophize about, and guess, and attempt to determine from their own mind, instead of relying on Gods Understanding.
So, yes absolutely God's Understanding "complies" with His own written word. However God's deeper Understanding is NOT revealed IN His written word. It is given BY God, to men who belong to Him and seek His Understanding. -
Scripture teaches Jesus was born of God ~ which simply means Jesus came forth OUT from God.
Jesus is the Word of God. When Gods Word comes forth out from God, things OF God are said/spoken/revealed.
Scripture reveals in Isaiah that Gods Word would come forth out of His mouth, and go to where He sends it, and accomplish what it was sent to do.
ACCOMPLISHED!
Isa 55
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
THAT THING ` was Mary's womb.
John.1
- [13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
[13] Which were .... not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man,
John.16
- [27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
John.19
- [28] After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
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Act 2
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
Gnostic Docetism cannot survive even rudimentary scrutiny from the Scripture. The passages are legion.
Joh 1
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
This passage is talking about Christians, NOT the "monogenes theos" of Joh 1:18. He is the "only unique" theos who is in the bosom of the Father and has exegeted Him. Our becoming "sons of God" is spiritual based on Him being one of us physically.
Joh 1
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
"kai ho logos sarx egeneto." That stabs Docetism right in the heart. -
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"Happy,"
1Jo 4
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jo 1
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Based on Holy Scripture I command you to repent of your antichrist gnosticism and stop preaching another Jesus and another gospel.
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