Reads and believes right?
KJV -vs- ESV
Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Phillip, Oct 4, 2002.
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Come to think of it, Daniel rejected the idea of emperor as a lower god also while Erasmus acknowledged the papacy (Christ's Vicar).
vicar
\Vic"ar\, n. [OE. vicar, viker, vicair, F. vicaire, fr. L. vicarius. See Vicarious.] 1. One deputed or authorized to perform the functions of another; a substitute in office; a deputy. [R.]
If you are going to assume that anything marginally associated with a heretic is tarnished then you need to explain why Erasmus sought the approval of "Christ's Vicar" for his text.
The KJV translators recognized their monarch's "headship/prelacy" over the Church of England- effectively their pope. The leaders of the translation committee also persecuted dissenters which included our Baptists forebearers. You should also be aware that the non-Anglicans in the early 1600's rejected the KJV until forced by law to use it.
If you are going to question the accuracy of a work based on the character of those associated with its production then the TR/KJVO position is completely indefensible. -
IMO you invited the "KJVO's" to join in when you made the following statement:
You guys remind me of the lawyers that have been deposing me for the last four months, you can find a piece of paper (or a post) written anytime, anywhere, just when you need it. Oh well, my infinite lack of "trying to be funny" seems to be my downfall.
I think I better start taking my lawyer's advice:
and stick to the following responses:
'yes'
'no'
'I don't recall.'
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I would have found the true word of God and went from there.
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Precisely how would you have gone about finding the "true word of God"? -
Homebound said:
These Bibles were perfect for that time in which they were.
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What I am saying is, I believe God does not reveal everything in the Bible the first, second, third, or one hundredth time you read it. If everything was revealed to you in the Bible then please explain everything to me.
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We weren't talking about what I may "get" out of the Bible after reading it, we were talking about the Bible. It is there whether I read or understand it or not.
If a perfect Bible existed before 1611, then either you must acknowledge that it is still a perfect Bible today (and therefore where it differs in meaning from the KJV, the KJV must be in error), or you must acknowledge that truth is relative to the age.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Choose.
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