This is a complete humiliation for the Obama administration. Forget about the merits of what Obama wants to do, which I think it’s a bad idea, but let’s assume it’s a good idea. This involves the elementary conduct of international diplomacy, trying to get some allies aboard so you don’t act unilaterally.
So who’s the main ally in the world who has been with us in every trench for the last 100 years? The British. And now the British have voted against us.
The other supposed ally was the French, President Hollande, and now he’s saying we got to wait for the report from the UN inspectors which will be early next week. So here is Obama and the Democrats, who railed against the Bush administration for its supposedly unilateral invasion of Iraq where we had 48 allies for a mission that involved boots on the ground — a real invasion, a real war. And here’s Obama trying to gather an ally or two for a pinprick, and he gets nothing.
http://youngcons.com/krauthammer-br...on-in-syria-a-complete-humiliation-for-obama/
Krauthammer: British parliament voting against action in Syria “ Complete Humiliation
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Aug 30, 2013.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I truly hope that the rest of the Christian community takes some time out to pray for the man and his decision making instead of always complaining about every little move he makes.
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exscentric Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
"Some on this board must have dreams with Obama in them."
That would be me, I've had night mares for several years now.
" I truly hope that the rest of the Christian community takes some time out to pray for the man and his decision making instead of always complaining about every little move he makes."
Yest an observation. Just cuz some complain, dosen't mean they aren't praying. -
Jedi Knight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I find it interesting that "W" was able to put together a coalition to invade Iraq (partially) on the argument that Saddam had used poisoned gas on the Kurds in 1988. In this instance we have incontrovertible proof that chemical weapons have been used in Syria and Obama can't get the U.S. top two allies to go along with his plans.
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Finally the Brits did something right! :thumbs:
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pinoybaptist Active MemberSite Supporter
there is no incontrovertible proof the Syrian leader used chemical weapons on his own people.
The proof there is no proof, is the Brits voting against intervention on the grounds the white house tenant is raising.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Obama is so arrogant he is not willing to do anything to build coalitions. He refused to talk with Putin over Snowden citing "Why should I have to?"
However his arrogance works in our favor this time. We have no business going into Syria at all. -
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The British people have the same problem we have in the US: they are tired of fighting wars and sending their soldiers to war. They are experiencing war malaise just as Americans are. It's not a surprise that their parliament said no if you pay attention to the country's mood. Not to mention there is an election coming up.
Neither the British nor the American electorate are thrilled about giving lives to help folks who aren't, as you said C4K, looking for democracy. -
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Inspector Javert said: ↑Stupid ones did, sure....but, it is also stupid people who elected Obama in the first place...Here are the facts:
George Bush: Coalition of 48 countries including:
Brazil, England, Australia, Canada, Poland, U.A.E. Egypt, Italy, Ukraine, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Czech Republic, Belgium, Austria, Turkey, Pakistan, India, Chile, Columbia, South Korea, Indonesia, Spain, Israel, Greece........Click to expand...
Obama (scoring a tentative 4 countries so far) can't get Great Britain, Germany, Australia, Canada or a particularly committal France...
Only a Communist Leftist can compare the lies about Bush's "Unilateral" decisions to Obama's...he can't even convince the U.K. to be on our side...Click to expand...
Newsflash: If even the BRITS aren't with you...than you're the worst failure of a President possible in the last 100 years.Click to expand...
Run the numbers on what "other people said" about Bush's "unilateral" decisions...and they'll be DEMONSTABLY false every time.
Under Obama it's been:
Libya-WRONGClick to expand...
Egypt-WRONGClick to expand...
Afghanistan-WRONGClick to expand...
Syria-WRONGClick to expand...
Iran-WRONG (<--- Bush kinda mucked that up too)Click to expand...Click to expand... -
General Mung Beans said: ↑So you're disappointed we did not launch a massive invasion of Iran?Click to expand...
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Just because they did not send troops does not mean they were not part of the coalition. Some people need to learn about coalitions and how they work.
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Inspector Javert said: ↑No......why would you immediately conclude something so simplistic? I don't think we would have had to.Click to expand...
Revmitchell said: ↑Just because they did not send troops does not mean they were not part of the coalition. Some people need to learn about coalitions and how they work.Click to expand...
Which did not include those countries. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
From the source
Forty-nine countries are publicly committed to the Coalition, including:
Afghanistan
Albania
Angola
Australia
Azerbaijan
Bulgaria
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Georgia
Honduras
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Japan
Kuwait
Latvia
Lithuania
Macedonia
Marshall Islands
Micronesia
Mongolia
Netherlands
Nicaragua
Palau
Panama
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Rwanda
Singapore
Slovakia
Solomon Islands
South Korea
Spain
Tonga
Turkey
Uganda
Ukraine
United Kingdom
United States
Uzbekistan
This number is still growing, and it is no accident that many member nations of the Coalition recently escaped from the boot of a tyrant or have felt the scourge of terrorism. All Coalition member nations understand the threat Saddam Hussein's weapons pose to the world and the devastation his regime has wreaked on the Iraqi people.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/iraq/news/20030327-10.htmlClick to expand...
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