Custom and tradition has watered down their message and they are unable to reform without throwing away some baggage. Now they have a worldwide scandal that really dates back centuries and they are begging the federal government to use RICO against them in this country. However, their American laity have walked away from the doctrine of transubstantiation. They have a very bad person as Pope right now and so they are stuck in the mud for a long time. They disqualify a cardinal from voting for Pope when he is 80 and Jorge Bergoglio has appointed a majority of cardinals now so that he will control the next election from the grave. The Vatican is so rich that it is immune to the consequences of corruption.
Let's see some Scriptural authority for APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by robycop3, Aug 18, 2019.
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Catholics don't believe God is a Spiritual version of HITLER.
Catholics don't believe in a bloodthirsty volcano God who so angry at everyone the only that soothes is sadistic pleasure in torturing innocent.
Catholics don't believe God is a spiritual racist who grants a spiritual salvation skin to some and damnation skin to the rest.
When someone does a great act of good even giving their lives like firefighters, police or soldiers, the catholic doesn't say well since this guy didn't follow our faith his act of good is actually evil with an evil motive.
Just like a nazi would say anything a Jew does has evil motive or just like a white supremacist would say if a black person saved your life its not qualified as actual good.
The Catholic does not teach the DAMNED SAMARITAN. It does not further the bigotry that only divides and causes trouble in this world
The Catholic can clearly point at God as the most merciful and most kind being in existence. We can tell every person they are a child of God and that God loves them.
The Catholic is against the idea God is an idiot.
The Catholic doesn't believe God is so dumb he can't handle beings with free will. The Catholic does not believe God is so dumb he can't win a chess match unless he moves your pieces for you.
The Catholic does not believe God is such an idiot that if he created something with its clear intent of never doing anything right.....to be upset then shocked when it doesn't do as commanded.
The Catholic believes What God commands is what he sincerely WANTS and DESIRES, He doesn't ponder God to be cowardly or deceptive.
When God commands all mankind not to sin, The Catholic understand God wants ALL mankind not to sin, An actual want and desire. He doesn't believe God lies about SAYING wanting everyone not to sin, but in reality wanting folks to sin.
The Catholic serves God who is love. The Catholic that understands God will never trade for what is clearly so evil, pathetic, sadistic, cowardly and worthless. -
the catholic serves the CHURCH ITSELF, not GOD. The RCC is chock-full of MAN-MADE RULES & TRADITIONS, in opposition to what JESUS said against replacing God's commands with those of men.
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Alan Gross Well-Known Member
Your post does not contain any Bible Scriptures, BTW.
The God of The Bible Hates and Judges sin.
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Name one difference in character between your idea of God and Hitler?
We can point to character of Jesus Christ its the exact of the Father's who LOVES HIS ENEMIES.
You would teach Jesus sins, and lied about loving enemies, having hated them before he created them.
You decided to go against your good conscience and do nothing to defend the character of Jesus Christ.
If the shoe is on the other foot and you said our understanding of God is evil compared to yours we would laugh.
Your idea is a deranged megalomaniac who is such a terrorist you don't even have the back bone to ask or question in defense of what is good.
Whereas our understanding is so easily identifiable good why? because its the same character of Jesus Christ.
If our Jesus walked up to a pool with children drowning, he would pull all of them out.
If your Jesus walked up to a pool with children drowning, maybe half or less get pulled out and then make the others look on at those drown. Hey you should be thankful that is not you there drowning. Complete monster.
The sad thing is you were too afraid to even try, because you just flat out expected God to be as evil as anyone else.
You can't even check with God if teaching is correct, you are not allowed to trust have faith in him.
Thats why we hear that good old story from your camp.....wow I am shocked and amazed that God would bother to save anyone at all.
Unlike a person with a good heart who would not be surprised If God was kind and merciful to all.
You've projected your fallen attitude on God.
You can' name one thing better in character about your understanding of God vs what we believe. I can go on for hours my God is not a hypocrite. God knows your mind and heart. You can't hide that. you can't prevent yourself out of FEAR to ponder and discern. I am free. God knows exactly what I think I don't have to hide it. And if something sounds funny I'm allowed to let him know. We don't get slapped down for following our God given conscience.
If I shoved you in a room of like minded people you wouldn't last a day, because there are plenty of Muslims, Calvinists and Pharisees who all think themselves righteous while everyone unlike them is automatically damned.
You teach the damned Samaritan, Jesus taught the GOOD SAMARITAN.
Your idea of God is so disagreeably evil terrorism and threat is the only option to sucker in those who are afraid. No one after genuinely understanding God to be good would ever switch.
You teach say only God can make a person understand things your way. You don't even believe that. If you did you wouldn't be wasting time with us, you'd be on your knees begging God to have us understand.
You CLEARLY do not even believe what you claim to believe.
You should pray to God and actually contemplate the concept of SINCERITY, being HONEST with YOURSELF,
It doesn't show.
I could do your job in 5 seconds. "God will save you if he likes you, damn you if he doesn't", I will go pray for God to like you. THE END.
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Hitler was not a practicing Catholic as an adult. He was more of a psychopath socialist and a Darwinist and perhaps an occultist like Himmler. He abolished Christmas in Germany.
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Still, NO Scripture nor any PROOF of "apostolic succession"! Guess we can conclude it's just another false, man-made RCC doctrine !
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Alan Gross Well-Known Member
You really don't know, do you?
I don't mean to be personally acting like I'm trying to harm you. The RC thing is in the business of Opposing and Denying The God of The Bible, but what false religion isn't.
RC is just the main counterfeit to anything Christian, or Biblical, or Salvation.
Salvation is where RC or any other purely false religion is important to an individual.
Salvation is Eternally Vital to every individual and Salvation is of The Lord.
Jesus is The Savior.
Jesus Saves from sin, as discribed in The Bible.
False religions generally insure lost souls that 'sin' of theirs is not what God Says it is, or no big deal, or up to the individual to 'play church religion, man-made', and forget God has Doomed them to Hell.
That is what Satan has false religions for.
A couple of places that God's Message of Salvation are not what I would depend on, is the internet, or RC.
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Since, Jesus Organized His church assembly out of Scripturally baptized believers, "if" someone were to say, "you can't have a 'church' without The Presence of God, like at Pentecost", that doesn't say much for Jesus' Presence, does it?
Anyway, Jesus Promised His Divnely Instituted church assembly, as a Corporate Entity, 'Another Comfortor', while Jesus was with them, on Earth.
That would be, The Vicar of Christ.
The Vicar of Christ Annointed The Most Holy church assembly Jesus had Founded, when Jesus baptized The church assembly He had Built, as a Perpetual Corporate Entity Organization and Organism with The Holy Spirit, on The Day of Pentecost.
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Alan Gross Well-Known Member
Hitler made a perfectly fine Catholic. -
Alan Gross Well-Known Member
I can't say your man- made thoughts on religion are easy, or hard.
If being Eternally Fatal is hard, I guess they are hard.
The main thing is that there is no Bible mentioned and the wild philosophies are very wild, and blasphemous, and Eternally Fatal.
The reason is your 'good heart' you confessed, which God denys.
That is where it all begins.
The heart is deceitful and desperately wicked, who can know it?
You can repeat something you said, if you feel that strongly about it.
There is a consistent tone of, "this is what I think", and that is basically the opposite of what God's Thoughts are.
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Alan Gross Well-Known Member
How incredibly shortsighted of me.
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Alan Gross Well-Known Member
He Replaced Christ as Another Comfortor.
Popes are not a topic for Bible study.
God Wrote The Bible.
Pope's were invented by The Beast.
Peter was an Apostle and a Saved, Scripturally baptized member of Jesus' first church assemble Jesus Put Together and Promised to Be with, until He Comes Again.
Satan didn't begin altering ever aspect of Jesus' churches, until sometime afterwards.
RC has nothing to do with Peter and is Satan's Counterfeit, entirely Anti-Christ, in every way and opposed to God 100%, and denies The Holy Spirit and The Bible.
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