Liberals Hate Children. Especially African Children.

[Bro. Curtis]

Child miners aged four at Congo cobalt mine | Daily Mail Online


Sickening.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Sickening.

Yes, ridiculous assertions are sickening.

(1) The big assumption with this post is that "liberals" are the only ones who buy electric/hybrid cars. That's blithering nonsense, although folks like Rush Limbaugh have been claiming that foolishness for years.

(2) End users of manufactured goods are not morally culpable for the abuse of people by persons several times removed from them, especially if that abuse is unknown. Therefore the assertion that "liberals hate children" is a contemptible lie.Now that this issue has been revealed (if it is true), steps can be taken to solve this issue.

(3) Cobalt is used for many things - in aeronautics, metal alloys, stainless steel, and electronic devices. It is also used in large battery systems used in many places, including electric cars. If it is logical to blame electric/hybrid buyers for the abuse of children in Africa, then air travelers, users of portable electronic devices, users of stainless steel, and those who use buildings with emergency power supplies are also equally to blame.

(4) Those who use computers (everyone who is reading this), mostly use computers completely manufactured in countries that employ labor in difficult or terrible conditions. Even if the computers are finally assembled in the United States or other Western nation (including hobbyist builds), many of the components are created in overseas sweat shops. Where is the self-righteous, accusatory rant about all users of electronic devices?

Of course, this post is not about reason, logic or truth. Rush Limbaugh and others have asked their followers (who apparently don't think for themselves) to spread this story around to demean their political opponents. The posting of such tripe on a Baptist Christian discussion board demonstrates how far the popular American version of Baptist life has moved from the teachings of Jesus.

Yes, this is sickening.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Liberals push this. The demonization of fossil fuels and the subsequent enslavement of children is on them.

And I didn't get it from Rush. The source I used is hardly a right wing think tank.

Standing by it. Liberals want less minority children. All their work points this out. Minority children always suffer the worst from liberal policies.

 

[TCassidy]

(1) The big assumption with this post is that "liberals" are the only ones who buy electric/hybrid cars. That's blithering nonsense, although folks like Rush Limbaugh have been claiming that foolishness for years.

I agree. I have a friend who is a graduate of VMI (West Point of the South) and is now a retired Marine Colonel. His politics are so far right I tell him he is three steps to the right of Attila the Hun! He drives a Prius.

(2) End users of manufactured goods are not morally culpable for the abuse of people by persons several times removed from them, especially if that abuse is unknown. Therefore the assertion that "liberals hate children" is a contemptible lie.Now that this issue has been revealed (if it is true), steps can be taken to solve this issue.

I agree again.

(3) Cobalt is used for many things - in aeronautics, metal alloys, stainless steel, and electronic devices. It is also used in large battery systems used in many places, including electric cars. If it is logical to blame electric/hybrid buyers for the abuse of children in Africa, then air travelers, users of portable electronic devices, users of stainless steel, and those who use buildings with emergency power supplies are also equally to blame.

Yep.

(4) Those who use computers (everyone who is reading this), mostly use computers completely manufactured in countries that employ labor in difficult or terrible conditions. Even if the computers are finally assembled in the United States or other Western nation (including hobbyist builds), many of the components are created in overseas sweat shops. Where is the self-righteous, accusatory rant about all users of electronic devices?

Yep, again.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Our mines were shut down over environmental concerns. The same concerns don't matter to us for Africa.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Liberals push this.

Liberals push the hatred of children, "especially African children," like your thread title claims?

Really?

The demonization of fossil fuels...

Fossil fuels have environmental, social and political consequences. We need to be quite aware of that. We also need to look for alternative energy sources so we are not as heavily dependent upon them.

That's simply Christian stewardship.

...and the subsequent enslavement of children is on them.

This result does not logically follow your premise.

And I didn't get it from Rush. The source I used is hardly a right wing think tank.

My apologies.

This story was posted on Rush Limbaughs Facebook feed with the following exhortation:

"Send this to everyone you know who drives an electric car. Send it on to all the leftist media that you know. Send it to the websites. Send it to CNN. Send it New York Times. See if anybody will dare even cover this."

I assumed you heard Limbaugh make the claim about liberals that you posted as the title of the thread and was hoping that it didn't come from your mind.

Did you create that lie yourself or did you simply pass it on from another source?

Standing by it. Liberals want less minority children. All their work points this out. Minority children always suffer the worst from liberal policies.

Based on the titles of your thread and your doubling-down on your assertions, I doubt I can have a reasonable conversation about your assertions, so I'm not going to bother.

However, you are right in saying that our political and social ideologies (whether they be "liberal", "conservative", "moderate", "populist", "radical" or a host of others often have unintended consequences.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Unintended consequences. That are constantly turned a blind eye to. (Dangled the participle, yes)

And I will cop to totally throwing a bomb in. But I also totally stand by my statement that minority children always suffer the most under liberal policies. And folks are very often called racists for pointing it out, I may add.

 

[TCassidy]

We also need to look for alternative energy sources so we are not as heavily dependent upon them.

Then why does the left constantly fight against the only present solution to burning fossil fuel? Nuclear Power?

As Dr. Enrico Fermi said, "Nuclear Power is not the best possible solution. It is the ONLY possible solution!"

 

[Reynolds]

Yes, ridiculous assertions are sickening.

(1) The big assumption with this post is that "liberals" are the only ones who buy electric/hybrid cars. That's blithering nonsense, although folks like Rush Limbaugh have been claiming that foolishness for years.

(2) End users of manufactured goods are not morally culpable for the abuse of people by persons several times removed from them, especially if that abuse is unknown. Therefore the assertion that "liberals hate children" is a contemptible lie.Now that this issue has been revealed (if it is true), steps can be taken to solve this issue.

(3) Cobalt is used for many things - in aeronautics, metal alloys, stainless steel, and electronic devices. It is also used in large battery systems used in many places, including electric cars. If it is logical to blame electric/hybrid buyers for the abuse of children in Africa, then air travelers, users of portable electronic devices, users of stainless steel, and those who use buildings with emergency power supplies are also equally to blame.

(4) Those who use computers (everyone who is reading this), mostly use computers completely manufactured in countries that employ labor in difficult or terrible conditions. Even if the computers are finally assembled in the United States or other Western nation (including hobbyist builds), many of the components are created in overseas sweat shops. Where is the self-righteous, accusatory rant about all users of electronic devices?

Of course, this post is not about reason, logic or truth. Rush Limbaugh and others have asked their followers (who apparently don't think for themselves) to spread this story around to demean their political opponents. The posting of such tripe on a Baptist Christian discussion board demonstrates how far the popular American version of Baptist life has moved from the teachings of Jesus.

Yes, this is sickening.

It is the same as the Congo diamond industry. The consumer FINALLY took responsibility for the misery they were causing. Why has the mining of Cobalt increased exponentially in recent years? The only logical answer is car batteries. Liberals are the only ones pushing electric cars.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Then why does the left constantly fight against the only present solution to burning fossil fuel? Nuclear Power?

You'll have to ask a liberal about that one. I suspect it has to do with the enormous and long-lasting consequences of a major failure at a nuclear plant, as well as their vulnerability to terrorist activity, such as someone flying a heavy aircraft or missile into the reactor core.

My position is that we need to explore and develop alternatives to fossil fuels so as to lessen our dependence upon them. I was reminded how far we've come this past weekend when I drove to extreme West Texas to officiate a wedding. I passed miles and miles of wind farms, all churning away day and night because of the near constant movement of wind from the southwest. According to a recent issue of Scientific American, wind power makes up nearly 23% of the power currently used in Texas. While driving the interstates, I saw trucks hauling the huge blades to new sites for installation. So wind power has already greatly reduced the use of fossil fuels in Texas.

The rise of natural gas over the past decade is also eliminating the use of coal as a much cleaner and healthier source of fuel that only requires pipelines instead of huge train loads of coal traveling across the nation to the various plants. While still a fossil fuel, natural gas is quite clean and plentiful and can sustain us for well over a century while we work on other technologies.

There is also relatively inexpensive solar technology coming online where folks in many parts of the country can get durable solar overlays for their roofs or a modest "sunflower" solar unit to provide much of the power for their own homes. I expect to install a solar roof on devices on my own home within the next decade and my brother has already done it for his home with older technology and has enjoyed significant savings and carbon footprint reduction.

As Dr. Enrico Fermi said, "Nuclear Power is not the best possible solution. It is the ONLY possible solution!"

While Fermi may have been right in his day, I think we have other alternatives yet to be fully worked through and implemented.

 

[Baptist Believer]

It is the same as the Congo diamond industry. The consumer FINALLY took responsibility for the misery they were causing.

So the customer was causing the misery? Hardly. Did people stop buying diamonds? Nope, they forced changes in the diamond market.

Why has the mining of Cobalt increased exponentially in recent years? The only logical answer is car batteries.

It's not the "only logical answer." Certainly that plays into it, but also the demand for high-tech gadgets and power battery backup systems for buildings and institutions (I work for a team that designs those systems).

Liberals are the only ones pushing electric cars.

You need to get out more. High fuel prices and the appeal of high powered electric and hybrid vehicles push the demand.

Have you ever looked at a Tesla? They are QUITE nice and extremely speedy. Go to youtube.com and check out the Tesla drivers racing other cars on the drag strip. Car guys are discovering how fun they can be.

I bought my wife a Toyota Camry Hybrid because of the type of driving she does in the city. And I love to drive it too. When I was driving to and from West Texas last weekend, the car easily handled the 75-85 mph speed limits on the interstate with faster acceleration that most of the comparable gas vehicles. Not sure about the newly redesigned 2018 Camry, but the previous hybrid models have significantly more horsepower than the conventional gas models because you have the electric motor to boost the gas motor for increased acceleration. I was stunned how quickly I was able to accelerate from 20 mph on an entrance ramp to 85 mph so I could merge into traffic.

I know folks like Rush Limbaugh have been bashing electric and hybrid for years, but you need to check our the technology for yourself.

 

[Reynolds]

So the customer was causing the misery? Hardly. Did people stop buying diamonds? Nope, they forced changes in the diamond market.


It's not the "only logical answer." Certainly that plays into it, but also the demand for high-tech gadgets and power battery backup systems for buildings and institutions (I work for a team that designs those systems).


You need to get out more. High fuel prices and the appeal of high powered electric and hybrid vehicles push the demand.

Have you ever looked at a Tesla? They are QUITE nice and extremely speedy. Go to youtube.com and check out the Tesla drivers racing other cars on the drag strip. Car guys are discovering how fun they can be.

I bought my wife a Toyota Camry Hybrid because of the type of driving she does in the city. And I love to drive it too. When I was driving to and from West Texas last weekend, the car easily handled the 75-85 mph speed limits on the interstate with faster acceleration that most of the comparable gas vehicles. Not sure about the newly redesigned 2018 Camry, but the previous hybrid models have significantly more horsepower than the conventional gas models because you have the electric motor to boost the gas motor for increased acceleration. I was stunned how quickly I was able to accelerate from 20 mph on an entrance ramp to 85 mph so I could merge into traffic.

I know folks like Rush Limbaugh have been bashing electric and hybrid for years, but you need to check our the technology for yourself.

I have looked at electric vehicles. I have driven them.

 

[TCassidy]

I suspect it has to do with the enormous and long-lasting consequences of a major failure at a nuclear plant, as well as their vulnerability to terrorist activity, such as someone flying a heavy aircraft or missile into the reactor core.

No. The containment on a Nuclear Plant can withstand the impact of a fully loaded Boeing 747.

The actual reason is that the anti-nuclear movement was funded by David Rockefeller. Chairman of Chase and board member of Exxon, successor to the family's cottage industry, Standard Oil.

Rockefeller did not want Nuclear Power to cut into the oil profits, so he funded anti-nuke groups to spread a lot of disinformation, and made a lot of contributions to environmental organizations to influence the left to oppose Nuclear power. He could not make a case for it being dangerous in and of itself, so he engineered the closure of spent fuel recycling centers forcing the long term storage of spent fuel, which then became the major environmental issue to so over-regulate Nuclear plants that, if your car was built to the same standard it would cost $5 million to build and $10,000 per mile to operate.

The politics of oil. Nothing more. Congress. Bought and paid for.

While Fermi may have been right in his day, I think we have other alternatives yet to be fully worked through and implemented.

So far wind is proving to be a disappointment to environmentalists in that the bird populations are being decimated by the turbine blades.

California's Altamont Pass wind “farm” kills an average of 116 Golden Eagles annually.

There have been several reported cases of wind turbines killing the highly endangered California Condor (only 22 presently alive in the wild). But so far none of those cases have been confirmed.

Also solar is progressing, but still has some inherent shortcomings. Storage for periods of darkness and cloud cover can be very difficult, not to mention the moderating media in which the solar cells are immersed can be very harmful to the environment if spilled.

Not to mention cadmium (which was discussed earlier), arsenides, and previously mentioned liquids.

We still have a lot of work to do.

 

[Reynolds]

No. The containment on a Nuclear Plant can withstand the impact of a fully loaded Boeing 747.

The actual reason is that the anti-nuclear movement was funded by David Rockefeller. Chairman of Chase and board member of Exxon, successor to the family's cottage industry, Standard Oil.

Rockefeller did not want Nuclear Power to cut into the oil profits, so he funded anti-nuke groups to spread a lot of disinformation, and made a lot of contributions to environmental organizations to influence the left to oppose Nuclear power. He could not make a case for it being dangerous in and of itself, so he engineered the closure of spent fuel recycling centers forcing the long term storage of spent fuel, which then became the major environmental issue to so over-regulate Nuclear plants that, if your car was built to the same standard it would cost $5 million to build and $10,000 per mile to operate.

The politics of oil. Nothing more. Congress. Bought and paid for.

So far wind is proving to be a disappointment to environmentalists in that the bird populations are being decimated by the turbine blades.

California's Altamont Pass wind “farm” kills an average of 116 Golden Eagles annually.

There have been several reported cases of wind turbines killing the highly endangered California Condor (only 22 presently alive in the wild). But so far none of those cases have been confirmed.

Also solar is progressing, but still has some inherent shortcomings. Storage for periods of darkness and cloud cover can be very difficult, not to mention the moderating media in which the solar cells are immersed can be very harmful to the environment if spilled.

Not to mention cadmium (which was discussed earlier), arsenides, and previously mentioned liquids.

We still have a lot of work to do.

At least the windmills are doing something good. Golden Eagle is in my opinion nothing but a nuisance.

 

[saved41199]

Y'all are so funny...this "liberal" birthed 3 children that lived, 1 that didn't and 3 that left their bodies long before they should have. I've also raised 4 children that I didn't birth.

I'm also a minority and a muscle car afficionado. My gas guzzling 2004 Mustang GT and my husband's 1999 Expedition are keeping the gas flowing here in the high desert.

You decide that liberals are some monolithic group...and you couldn't be more wrong.