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There is already page 31 so far. So, that topic is about to be closed anytime. So, let continue to discuss into part two.
Lacy,
You say:
Oh please.
Your opinion. Not what actual he thinks. He knew 'eternal life' speaks of there is life beyond death, because he never hear premillennialism before.
There is much misunderstanding and misintepreting what John(book of Revelation), and Peter(2 Peter 3:8) are talking about. 2 Peter 3:8 of 'a thousand years' is a figuratively meaning, not literal specific or exactly numbers of length years. It speaks of how quick, the day of the Lord shall be occured like as 'thief in the night'.
Rev. 20:1-7 of 'a thousand years' is symbolic and figurative meaning. This passage telling us about dead saints, these who refused compromising with the world, already overcome them, their souls are now in the heaven with the Lord. They are reigning with Christ, this is the first resurrection, which speak of eternal life. 'A thousand years' represents length time span between Calvary to second advent, it could be 2500, or 3000 years or so...it doesn't take literal exact or specific the length time. Church's reigning with Christ is not limited, it is everlasting. Also, Rev. 20:7 tells us, when the thousand years are finished, then satan shall be loosed out of the midst. This mean, after the gospel of the kingdom is completed, whilst apostasy becomes climax, God fed up with Church, allow Satan loosed out of the midst(2 Thess. 2:3-8), then Satan shall persecute against the church for a little season.
Right now, we are now in the realized millennium, because Christ already defeated Satan at Calvary, gave the key(power)-Rev. 20:1-3 to the Church, to spread out the gospel over the world (Matt. 16:18-19), the gospel of the kingdom have been lastly for almost 2000 years since Calvary to now. 'A thousand years' gives us the picture means length time span between Calvary to second advent. Dead saints in the heaven are now already reigning with Christ for almost 2000 years, even, it could be last 2500, or 3000, or 4000 or more. Then, when the apostasy become climax, God fed up with Church, allow Satan out of the midst(speak of his spiritually restraining) to persecute against Church for a little season. Then, Christ comes with angels, to destroy the world, and sends Satan to the lake of fire. Christ shall sit on the throne, to judge the world. That what Revelation chapter 20 is all about.
You say:
You seems think rich man was actual saved. But, verse 17 says, rich man said to Christ, "Good Master", obivously, he was not actual saved. He has the wrong idea who Christ is. Then, verse 19 - Christ told him, "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is God."
Judasim oftens called Jesus, 'the good master', also, in John 3:2, Nicodemus came to Christ, and called him, " 'Rabbi', we know that thou art a 'teacher' come from God...". There is no difference between 'Rabbi' and 'master', both are same meaning. Nicodemus was not truly saved yet at the time, he came to ask Christ. Same with rich man of Mark chapter 10.
Obivously, the rich man was not saved, he has the wrong idea, who Christ is. Rich man heard rumours spread out around Israel on Jesus. Also, rich man was grew up in his own religion - Judasim. He does good works, kept laws, follow Ten Commandments. Many religions and Judasim doing the same things. They are not truly saved.
Rich man was desired want to have eternal life. So, he decided came to see Christ, and asked him, what things that he missed, need to do to have eternal life. Obivous, he was not truly saved. Many religions have their desire looking for have eternal life - salvation in heaven. They do many good works trying to enter into heaven. But, they missed it, because they did not ask Christ to accpet him, and not even, willing to follow him 100% all the way.
Nowhere in the context of Mark chapter 10 mentioned of 'a thousand years'. Neither, Christ saying 'the kingdom of God' is so called, a thousand years' either.
Use our common sense, the kingdom of God is not come with observation, it is from above which is spiirtual. It brings to us of the gospel, what Christ is all about- salvation.
Sadly, the rich man was bitter and sorrowly, refuse willing to give up everything what he possessed them, give them to the poor, he went on his own way. Now he is in hell, he was not saved. He is already lost. Period.
In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
Lacy,
You say:
Oh please.
Your opinion. Not what actual he thinks. He knew 'eternal life' speaks of there is life beyond death, because he never hear premillennialism before.
There is much misunderstanding and misintepreting what John(book of Revelation), and Peter(2 Peter 3:8) are talking about. 2 Peter 3:8 of 'a thousand years' is a figuratively meaning, not literal specific or exactly numbers of length years. It speaks of how quick, the day of the Lord shall be occured like as 'thief in the night'.
Rev. 20:1-7 of 'a thousand years' is symbolic and figurative meaning. This passage telling us about dead saints, these who refused compromising with the world, already overcome them, their souls are now in the heaven with the Lord. They are reigning with Christ, this is the first resurrection, which speak of eternal life. 'A thousand years' represents length time span between Calvary to second advent, it could be 2500, or 3000 years or so...it doesn't take literal exact or specific the length time. Church's reigning with Christ is not limited, it is everlasting. Also, Rev. 20:7 tells us, when the thousand years are finished, then satan shall be loosed out of the midst. This mean, after the gospel of the kingdom is completed, whilst apostasy becomes climax, God fed up with Church, allow Satan loosed out of the midst(2 Thess. 2:3-8), then Satan shall persecute against the church for a little season.
Right now, we are now in the realized millennium, because Christ already defeated Satan at Calvary, gave the key(power)-Rev. 20:1-3 to the Church, to spread out the gospel over the world (Matt. 16:18-19), the gospel of the kingdom have been lastly for almost 2000 years since Calvary to now. 'A thousand years' gives us the picture means length time span between Calvary to second advent. Dead saints in the heaven are now already reigning with Christ for almost 2000 years, even, it could be last 2500, or 3000, or 4000 or more. Then, when the apostasy become climax, God fed up with Church, allow Satan out of the midst(speak of his spiritually restraining) to persecute against Church for a little season. Then, Christ comes with angels, to destroy the world, and sends Satan to the lake of fire. Christ shall sit on the throne, to judge the world. That what Revelation chapter 20 is all about.
You say:
You seems think rich man was actual saved. But, verse 17 says, rich man said to Christ, "Good Master", obivously, he was not actual saved. He has the wrong idea who Christ is. Then, verse 19 - Christ told him, "Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is God."
Judasim oftens called Jesus, 'the good master', also, in John 3:2, Nicodemus came to Christ, and called him, " 'Rabbi', we know that thou art a 'teacher' come from God...". There is no difference between 'Rabbi' and 'master', both are same meaning. Nicodemus was not truly saved yet at the time, he came to ask Christ. Same with rich man of Mark chapter 10.
Obivously, the rich man was not saved, he has the wrong idea, who Christ is. Rich man heard rumours spread out around Israel on Jesus. Also, rich man was grew up in his own religion - Judasim. He does good works, kept laws, follow Ten Commandments. Many religions and Judasim doing the same things. They are not truly saved.
Rich man was desired want to have eternal life. So, he decided came to see Christ, and asked him, what things that he missed, need to do to have eternal life. Obivous, he was not truly saved. Many religions have their desire looking for have eternal life - salvation in heaven. They do many good works trying to enter into heaven. But, they missed it, because they did not ask Christ to accpet him, and not even, willing to follow him 100% all the way.
Nowhere in the context of Mark chapter 10 mentioned of 'a thousand years'. Neither, Christ saying 'the kingdom of God' is so called, a thousand years' either.
Use our common sense, the kingdom of God is not come with observation, it is from above which is spiirtual. It brings to us of the gospel, what Christ is all about- salvation.
Sadly, the rich man was bitter and sorrowly, refuse willing to give up everything what he possessed them, give them to the poor, he went on his own way. Now he is in hell, he was not saved. He is already lost. Period.
In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
