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You are moving the goalposts with a straw man.
No unregenerate person, conservative or liberal will support Jesus as their King. They will think it foolish and repel from it. That's not just a liberal professor issue.
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Again, you are creating a straw man.
Discerning marxism to be detrimental to society has nothing to do with loving the person who supports marxism. I can decry the ideology, yet love the person espousing that ideology.
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You care more about political parties and controlling people than you care about...your King. That is idol worship.
There are two commandments for us to follow:
1) Love the Lord your God with all your heart.
2) Love your neighbor as yourself.
Do you see what is missing? Nowhere does it say: Vote Republican or you aren't a Christian.
It seems you are a one issue person (the issue of abortion is very important). I don't see Jesus being a one issue person. I do see him emphasizing 2 commandments, however.
How are we doing with those two commandments?
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Vote to kill babies. Vote to murder the innocent. Have at it.
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I realized that many christians are spineless.
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Again, you are creating a straw man.
Discerning marxism to be detrimental to society has nothing to do with loving the person who supports marxism. I can decry the ideology, yet love the person espousing that ideology.
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I think I am going to put my Hyper Cal hat on for this discussion.
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The Church is called to be light and salt, and to live for Jesus and to influence our culture is part of that when we can, see the Slavery "wars"
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No they didn't.
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Paul kept using his persky Roman citizen rights, didn't he?
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Liberals do not tolerate at all any who think against them!
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Again, you are creating a straw man.
Discerning marxism to be detrimental to society has nothing to do with loving the person who supports marxism. I can decry the ideology, yet love the person espousing that ideology.
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Yes, but we must divide them from their wicked beliefs and stop coddling them!
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According to some here, seems that we should not have gotten involved in stopping practice of human slavery!
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Platt's position is definitely the better one. It doesn't allow for the false belief that America is a Christian nation or that the GOP is the Christian party.
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Neither do conservatives. Your argument is moot.
The issue is that unregenerate people will always serve themselves. It does not matter their political position.
Knowing this truth, both elite political parties are run by and guided by godless, unregenerate sinners who are working to set themselves upon the throne and control others.
Trying to lift political party above family relationship as children of God (Christian) is a wicked thing. Would you condemn your brother and sister while lifting up your political party as that which separates you and they from the body of Christ? May God forbid that his children are divided by a petty, worldly, temporal issue. What you are doing here should be viewed as shameful. We, as children of God, are one family and we must accept this truth and live with it in community. To seek division is to fight against God's will.
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Neither do conservatives. Your argument is moot.
The issue is that unregenerate people will always serve themselves. It does not matter their political position.
Knowing this truth, both elite political parties are run by and guided by godless, unregenerate sinners who are working to set themselves upon the throne and control others.
Trying to lift political party above family relationship as children of God (Christian) is a wicked thing. Would you condemn your brother and sister while lifting up your political party as that which separates you and they from the body of Christ? May God forbid that his children are divided by a petty, worldly, temporal issue. What you are doing here should be viewed as shameful. We, as children of God, are one family and we must accept this truth and live with it in community. To seek division is to fight against God's will.
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Conservatives allow those against their views to be represented, liberals shut any against them off!
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No. Accurate statement.
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No straw man at all.
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You'll find most of their arguments to be strawman arguments. This is due to a poor sense of logic, hence most won't know what a strawman is and so will simply reply "No, it's not." :Rolleyes