Rom 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Just as adams disobedience made many sinners, so likewise, Jesus christ obedience made many sinners righteous..
Not their obedience, not their faith [which is obedience], not their water baptism, not their repentance..but Jesus christ obedience made them righteous before God..
The word made is the greek word:
kathistēmi which means:
to constitute, to render, make, cause to be
to set down as, constitute, to declare, show to be
This took no action on behalf of the one or ones being rendered or constituted righteous, just as it took no action on their part, to be rendered or constituted sinners..adam did for the one, and Jesus christ did it for the other..
This verse actually condemns 99.9 % of the religons of the world..
Made righteous by Christ obedience.
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by savedbymercy, Mar 12, 2012.
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In the same way that saying words "makes" people married?
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Now. who was made sinners in Rom 5:19 by the disobedience of one, that is adam, and who shall be made righteous by the obedience of one, that is Jesus christ ? Its the many for whom Jesus was made a ransom..
Matt 20:28
Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Its the church of God..Eph 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
It was all of the elect of God who had been given physical being in adam in the beginning..
Now, it must be understood, that this excludes the non elect, which also is the seed of the devil..
For the devils people never fell in adam, nor rose with christ..
The devils people sinned in their father the devil, whom sinned in the beginning..
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How many of you feel "righteous" in your guts even if you may think you are "saved?" I don't!
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And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.
14And the LORD God said unto the serpent[the devil], Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Now if we take God at His Word, He clearly told the devil that he had a seed, and that the woman [Adam and Eve] had a seed. So they could not be the same seed !
Adam and Eve were Created in the Image and Likeness of God, now are you going to tell me that the serpents seed was made that way also ? -
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Also do you believe in Lilith?
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Ask a simple question, get a....well...
Savedbymercy said that the Elect and Non Elect are two races of men. God told Rebekah that two manner of people were in her (Gen 25:23). God told Satan that he had a seed (Gen 3:14-15).
I believe what was implied in his question was that Adam and Eve were created in God’s image, the seed of the serpent was not. The devil has a seed that is different from the seed of the woman. In this sense, I take it a spiritual sense, there are two races of men.
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>Yes, the Elect and Non Elect. When God spoke to Rebekah she was told that two manner of people were in her ! Gen 25:23
>And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.
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