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Major Blow to Obamacare Mandate: IRS Won't Reject Tax Returns That Don't Answer Health Insurance Que

Revmitchell

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How much difference does a single line on a tax form make? For Obamacare's individual mandate, the answer might be quite a lot.

Following President Donald Trump's executive order instructing agencies to provide relief from the health law, the Internal Revenue Service appears to be taking a more lax approach to the coverage requirement.

The health law's individual mandate requires everyone to either maintain qualifying health coverage or pay a tax penalty, known as a "shared responsibility payment." The IRS was set to require filers to indicate whether they had maintained coverage in 2016 or paid the penalty by filling out line 61 on their form 1040s. Alternatively, they could claim exemption from the mandate by filing a form 8965.


For most filers, filling out line 61 would be mandatory. The IRS would not accept 1040s unless the coverage box was checked, or the shared responsibility payment noted, or the exemption form included. Otherwise they would be labeled "silent returns" and rejected.

Instead, however, filling out that line will be optional.

Earlier this month, the IRS quietly altered its rules to allow the submission of 1040s with nothing on line 61. The IRS says it still maintains the option to follow up with those who elect not to indicate their coverage status, although it's not clear what circumstances might trigger a follow up.

http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/14/irs-blow-to-obamacare-individual-mandate
 

Baptist Brother

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Obamacare is dead. It was dead even before this, because of raising rates driving out relatively healthy people, causing more people to leave, causing raising rates, and so on. Without the penalty, people will flee faster.

No need to repeal, it died on its own. It was unworkable.
 

Jedi Knight

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How much difference does a single line on a tax form make? For Obamacare's individual mandate, the answer might be quite a lot.

Following President Donald Trump's executive order instructing agencies to provide relief from the health law, the Internal Revenue Service appears to be taking a more lax approach to the coverage requirement.

The health law's individual mandate requires everyone to either maintain qualifying health coverage or pay a tax penalty, known as a "shared responsibility payment." The IRS was set to require filers to indicate whether they had maintained coverage in 2016 or paid the penalty by filling out line 61 on their form 1040s. Alternatively, they could claim exemption from the mandate by filing a form 8965.


For most filers, filling out line 61 would be mandatory. The IRS would not accept 1040s unless the coverage box was checked, or the shared responsibility payment noted, or the exemption form included. Otherwise they would be labeled "silent returns" and rejected.

Instead, however, filling out that line will be optional.

Earlier this month, the IRS quietly altered its rules to allow the submission of 1040s with nothing on line 61. The IRS says it still maintains the option to follow up with those who elect not to indicate their coverage status, although it's not clear what circumstances might trigger a follow up.

http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/14/irs-blow-to-obamacare-individual-mandate
So if you're not covered should you go silent and leave it blank and get your normal return or will they come after you? This is the question.....is it a trap?
 

Baptist Brother

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Our income tax system breeds fraud. The avoid the Obamacare penalty, one need only check the box that one has insurance. Yeah, you can claim insurance you don't have. You can claim kids you don't have, you do need an SS# (big money). Claim deductions you don't have. Married people and honest people are huge losers.
 

rlvaughn

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Hadn't heard about this. We filed electronically, filled in that line and are paying $1390 of our "shared responsibility"! (Unless the IRS decides to play nice and cancel it. My assumption was that the executive order was not retroactive and the electronic filing seemed to confirm that.)
 

Baptist Brother

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Hadn't heard about this. We filed electronically, filled in that line and are paying $1390 of our "shared responsibility"! (Unless the IRS decides to play nice and cancel it. My assumption was that the executive order was not retroactive and the electronic filing seemed to confirm that.)

You probably are out of luck.
 

carpro

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Hadn't heard about this. We filed electronically, filled in that line and are paying $1390 of our "shared responsibility"! (Unless the IRS decides to play nice and cancel it. My assumption was that the executive order was not retroactive and the electronic filing seemed to confirm that.)

Makes you look like a fool for doing what you were supposed to do, doesn't it?
 

Jedi Knight

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So whats the real point in them doing that? Tempting people not to answer for a full refund and then IRS will follow up and play gotcha?
 
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