Did you see the quote where nearly half of Russians disbelieve that the United States of America ever went to the moon?
Ask yourself why is it taking so long for the United States to go back and why others, who were 'ahead' in technological achievements at the time, didn't push forward to the moon, and beyond already, even right after the US supposedly did? Why did Russia just throw in the towel, and China never even bother? What about the rich Saudi's? They don't see any advantage of mining operations, mineral deposits?
Why would the most powerful countries, not have bases set up if not on surface, then in orbit, to control the higher altitude of space, to dominate the lower altitude? In military terms, the high ground is generally the best position.
Man-kind never set foot on the planetary body known as the 'moon', acc to Bible (KJB), Hist. & Sci.
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Alofa Atu, Jul 25, 2021.
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RighteousnessTemperance& Well-Known Member
Unfortunately, from the outset you posted something so obviously faked as if it was the real deal that there seems no need to go any further.
Besides, from the outset, I agreed with the general premise that space colonization pursuits are a waste of money.
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Not that we did not land on this light. It is that the more one sees these as just large lights, the less they are seen as part of a huge universe, instead of just a fixed place in a universe the size of earth itself. -
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Your conspiracy theory holds as much water as a sieve, which goes along with your reputation here for promoting goofy stuff. -
What I have really and most especially noticed, is that not one person has even tried to address the OP scriptures (the primary evidence). They merely attempt to debunk the science or forensic evidences. I used to think Baptists were people of the book (Bible), but I find that individuals of such are a rare and dwindling breed. There are a few good persons to be sure, but overall, going extinct. Of all the people that call themselves Christians, it was the Baptists I had the most hope for to consider truth in the scripture, since they, generally, had used to be so much like us in the past. That hope dies a little every day.
So for you, a slightly differing material, may you consider it at least once. PM me if you want to open a new thread about it, and I would be glad to discuss it with you.
Well, 37818 ('BIBLE' in reverse and upside down using calculator language), I still have a hope for you, at least a little (God shows me things ...). -
I will give you a clue about my age. I will relate some birthday information. I was born upon the same day and in the same month as my father, and so I am as old as my tongue and a little bit older than my teeth. -
The Sun in scripture is a type of Jesus Christ, the "light of the world" - Malachi 4:2; John 8:12, 11:9; 2 Peter 1:19, etc.I pray your question is answered satisfactorily.
The Moon in scripture is a type of the body of Christ, or the Church, which reflects His glory - Revelation 12:1; 'dead' to itself. The "moon" is indeed a "rock", since the church stands upon the rock (the word of God; Exodus 33:21; Matthew 7:24, etc)
The Earth in scripture is a type of worldliness (Isaiah 13:11; Mark 4:19, 8:36; John 8:23; etc), and has no light of itself, and requires the light of God, even later the Sun, Moon and Stars (or also lightning) to see out of darkness (Genesis 1:2,15,17, etc).
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What one issue caused you to doubt the moon landings? Which gave you reason to look into it further?
People believe things differently for reasons. Where I differ and do not feel I need to change the other's mind I will simply give my reasons for my belief. And hear the other's stated view. And if I have added reasons for believing the way I do I will state it.
I believe in the mortality of the soul and not in annihiationism. Just saying we believe what we are able to understand to be true. Got to find the common ground. -
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The bodies in the firmament are all angels. Celestial bodies are the angels. -
I, as a true Seventh-day Adventist (from Roman Catholicism of 30 years), would like to share some scriptures (KJB), as all true Seventh-day Adventists, whose final authority in all matters of faith and practice is the Bible (which includes the gift of Prophets/prophecy, 1 Cor. 12:28, 14:32; Eph. 3:5, 4:11, &c.) will acknowledge that the Earth is indeed a 'spheroid' (Isa. 40:22; Job 22:14; Psa. 19:6; 1 Sam. 7:16; Ecc. 1:6; Heb. 1:2, 11:3; 1 Sam. 2:8; Psa. 90:2; Isa. 3:18; Gen. 9:13-16; Eze. 1:28; Rev. 4:3, 10:1; Psa. 144:5; Isa. 45:6, 59:19; Mat. 24:27; Dan. 8:5; Jos. 12:1; Num. 2:3; Jos. 1:4; Deut. 11:30; Ecc. 1:5; Psa. 50:1, 113:3-4; Mal 1:11; Eze. 8:16; and the Sanctuary itself, among many other scriptures and examples.), and the Spirit of Prophecy/Testimony of Jesus re-confirms this (sister White said that the "world" is "round", a "globe", an "orb" (just as Sun and Moon are), an "sphere" (when speaking of natural and spiritual matters).), see Letter 167, 1900, pp. 1, 2. (To G. A. Irwin, March 23, 1900.); Letter 167, 1900; 3SM 317; 10MR 9; ST, March 20, 1884 par. 6; CET 88; CCh 324; CT 185; DA 59-60; TA 111; ST, April 14, 1881 par. 11; EW 290; Ed 99; FLB 28; Hvn 155; HP 40; RH, August 15, 1899 par. 17; ST, August 3, 1904 par. 6; SW, January 24, 1905 par. 4; 13MR 382; AA 29; CME 30; ChS 18; CH 215; 6T 23, 24; CSW 133; CET 219; HP 93; LS 379; LS 402; MM 330; RC 121; 6T 23; 7T 51; Letter 183, 1899; TSA 83; AUCR, January 1, 1901 par. 6; GCB, October 1, 1901 par. 16; PUR, July 7, 1904 par. 2; RP, September 15, 1908 par. 4; RH, July 7, 1903 par. 7; CH 215; DA 822; FLB 94.6; AG 238.2; SC 68.1; 7T 51.1; ST Nov. 24, 1887; 1BC 1085.1; ST, July 18, 1892 par. 6; RH, January 18, 1881 par. 22; RH, May 31, 1887 par. 4; RH, January 24, 1882 par. 1; 1888 1370.2.
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12008602/
The point of the video presentation, in my reply, is that many of the persons who do not believe that NASA landed a man on the moon, understand that Stanley Kubrick, as a film maker was most likely involved, even if at just a technical level, since there are photos of him with NASA personnel:
Now, the video of "Stanley" is obviously a mock up of what persons think Stanley might have said in such an interview, and I posted a secondary video beneath it, not just this one. The claim was made that a film-maker disagrees with the people who believe that NASA faked the Apollo missions (at least). I replied with a film maker, in which is 'Stanley' saying he believed it was 'fake'. Now, that you took the time to actually discern that the video was itself concocted, why do you not see the same chicanery in the official NASA videos, like the one I already cited from Bart Sibrel in which an NASA astronot is told by a third-party (unknown male voice) to "talk" in between dead-air after a question is asked to him supposedly by Houston. Why cannot you see the "strings" on these puppets:
Walt Disney was also supposed to be involved in prop making, etc, and he is also seen with NASA persons, like NAZI Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun:
Did NASA need any models built and animatronics? Yes. Quite a bit.
His (Stanley Kubrick's) films are filled with material that are 'Apollo' related, as for instance, in the Shining, 2001 Space Odyssey, Eyes Wide Shut (whom several believed he was killed for (I am undecided on that), etc ( Stanley Kubrick - IMDb ):
What's really going on?
So, good job on spotting the obvious, and now will you attempt to identify the same in the NASA footage itself? if not, why not? It's just as obvious. -
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The USSR wanted to destroy us ever since near the end of WW2. Stalin was so jealous of us! And so were his successors, Malenkov, Bulganin, & Khrushchev. There was no way any of them would've fully cooperated with the USA in anything.
You remind me some of L.Ron Hubbard, Arnold Murray, & Herbie Armstrong, all very-believable-sounding charlatans, in coming up with theories & assertions which are total horse feathers. You may continue to fool yourself with them, but you're not fooling anyone else here, especially me. -
RighteousnessTemperance& Well-Known Member
In any case, top craftsmen advising NASA on simulation, animation, cinematography, etc., is hardly a sign of anything nefarious or clandestine.
And BTW, what the Russian masses think about this doesn’t affect the truth. However, your reasons for imagining otherwise should prove entertaining, if you wish to share them. :Wink
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