Husbands
Proverbs 5:19 shahgah (shaygay) states that the husband is to be exhilarated, ravished, intoxicated with love for his wife. Ephesians 5:25 commands him to love his wife as Christ loved the church and he is not to be bitter against her (Colossians 3:19). He is to honor her (1 Peter 3:7).
1. Are you ravished with love for your wife?
2. Do you attempt to love your wife as Christ loved the church?
3. Do you hold ANY KIND of bitterness against your wife?
4. Do you have a special honor for your wife in your heart?
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Wives
Ephesians 5:24 commands the wife to be submissive to her husband in everything (barring sin Acts 5:29). A few verses later we read in Ephesians 5:33 that the wife is to have a godly fear (phobew) for her husband for he is her master (1 Peter 3:6). The wife is to have a gentle and quiet spirit (1 Peter 3:4) and to speak the law of kindness (Proverbs 31:26).
1. Are you willing to submit to your husband in everything?
2. Do you have a godly fear for your husband?
3. Do you treat your husband as the God appointed master of your marriage?
4. Do you have a gentle and quiet spirit speaking the law of kindness?
Marriage truths that aren't talked about much
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Olivencia, Apr 15, 2009.
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Seriously, what do you mean by "God appointed master"? What does 'master' mean? If anybody knows Greek, that would be great. -
The Greek word is 'kurios'. It means "Lord" as in the Lord Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 1:3). It can also mean "sir" (Revelation 7:14) and it can mean "master" (1 Peter 3:6).
In Peter 3 Peter is writing that Christian wives are to have the qualities that Sarah and the holy women of old had in relation to their husbands. -
preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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1. Godly fear is to be directed "to" her husband.
2. Several Greek lexicons use submit/submission.
3. The word "master" is more appropriate. Greek lexicons and the context of the passage demonstrate this truth. My wife is my ontological and soteriological equal but functionally in God's eyes she is not.
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preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I don't know how all these Greek lexicons can have it wrong....
A. Ephesians 5:24 Submit/Obey
1. Thayer - hupotassw (Strong's #5293) - to subject one's self, to obey (page 645). Thayer cites Ephesians 5:24 and 1 Peter 3:1, 5.
2. EDNT 3:408, "subordination, obedience, wives toward their husbands (Col 3:18; Eph 5:24b; 1 Peter 3:1, 5; Titus 2:5).
3. EDNT 3:395, "Sarah's obedience toward Abraham is presented as a model for wives (->6)". Later (same page)...."Peter concludes its admonitions to wives (3:1-6) with a reference to Sarah, who according to v.6 obediently subordinated herself to her husband for she called him her lord (Gen 18:12).
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B. Ephesians 5:33 "phobew"
1. TDNT 9:217 - "Certainly these are to expect love from their husbands rather than anger (Eph. 5:25, 28, 33) and yet they are still to fear in subordination, for they owe this to their exemplary walk (1 Pt. 3:2) or to their husbands ws tw kuriw (Eph. 5:22, cf. 33).
2. Danker - citing Ephesians 5:33, to have a profound measure of respect for, (have) reverence, respect, w. special ref. to fear of offending (A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, page 1061).
3. Vine: (b) to show reverential fear (1) ...Eph. 5:33 (fear - phobew, page 415).
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C. 1 Peter 3:6
1. Kittel - The superiority in which there must be submission is implied in kurios when 1 Pt. 3:6 points out that Sarah calls Abraham "lord' (an allusion to Gn. 18:12 LXX)... (TDNT 3:1086, kurios).
2. Kittel - In marriage Christianity demands the subordination of the wife (hupotassesthai tois idiois andrasin, Eph. 5:22, 24; Col. 3:18; 1 Pt. 3:1, 5 [v.6 : kurios]) but also unselfish love from the husband such as that shown by Christ for the Church (Eph. 5:25, 28; Col. 3:19; 1 Pt. 3:7). (TDNT 1:362, 363, aner).
3. Brown: In 1 Pet. 3:6 her obedient attitude to her husband is set out as the pattern which Christian wives should follow (NIDNTT 1:80, Abraham - subdivided Sarah).
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Are we grading these then handing them at the end?
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God's word is always an A+.
How much one is willing to accept what God's word says/means varies from person to person. -
My favorite truth is not from the Bible: Men marry women thinking they will never change. Women marry men thinking they will change. Both are wrong.
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corndogggy Active MemberSite Supporter
So are the old testament marriage truths not valid anymore? :)
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corndogggy Active MemberSite Supporter
[derogatory remarks deleted]
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Besides we do not know if Paul was not married. He may have been. He simply was not married at the time of the writing of 1 Corinthians. -
corndogggy Active MemberSite Supporter
Was the marriage truths in the old testament written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit? -
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Paul would have had to be married to be in the sect of Pharisees he was in. It is most probable that his wife either died, or deserted him after his conversion.
The Christian ethic for marriage actually begins in Genesis where a husband is told to 'leave and cleave' to his wife. The two are made one and whatsoever therefore he would do for himself, he is to do for his wife as well. A return to the Biblical roles of both husbands and wife - fathers and mothers - would go a long way in restoring our society. -
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peace to you:praying:
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