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Matthew 23:13

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by agedman, Jul 5, 2019.

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  1. Van

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    Some here deny false teaching can block folks who are open to the gospel, denying that falsehoods sidetrack some who would otherwise enter.
     
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    Matthew 23:13:
    "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.

    Total Spiritual Inability is shown to be bogus because "people" could not be shut off is they had no ability to enter. Second, since these people were not allowed to go in, they were not being compelled by irresistible grace.
     
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    Mat 23:13 may not say anything about the righteousness of Christ or eternal Salvation but Christ is saying they shut up the kingdom of heaven they don't enter in and they hinder those who are about to enter. You claim this isn't about Salvation or being saved. You my friend are wrong. No one enters heaven with out being saved. Entering heaven is our ultimate reward The Pharisee;s were trying to prevent men from entering and the only way they can do this is by some form of distraction. Your only disagreement is that disagrees with what you believe. Just seems typically Calvinist. Your argument is with scripture.
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    Van & MB,

    "sand".
     
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    After matching wits with what could be some controversy regarding this Scripture, I posted a adaptation of Gill, who has a capibilty of disregarding the flesh, as an Interpretation 'tool' and directing toward a God-Honoring Interpretation.

    Jesus Spoke of those who heard these Sayings of His, as those who built their house upon a rock.

    I recommend to you, Jesus:

    Matthew 23 Gill's Exposition, with my added comments placed in bold.

    The Bible and Jesus' Words were Stated and Recorded long before a man named 'Calvin'.
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    Is there a premise being advanced to cause a controversy, where, "for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men" has an indication of "the kingdom of heaven", being Spoken of here by Jesus, could somehow mean, "eternal life"?

    The entrance into "eternal life" can neither be opened nor shut by men: those whom God determines to bring to "eternal life", shall have an entrance abundantly ministered to them, in spite of the opposition of men and devils;

    though these men did all that in them lay, to hinder persons enjoying everlasting glory.

    But by, "the kingdom of heaven', the Second Administration of The Eternal Covenant of Grace in The Gospel Era is here meant,

    "the kingdom of heaven', The Second Administration of The Eternal Covenant of Grace in The Gospel Era opened by the ministry of John the Baptist, Christ and his disciples,

    and which the Scribes and Pharisees did all they could to shut, i.e., The Advent of The Teaching Of Jesus and His Gospel; by discouraging the preaching of the Gospel, and the administration of ordinances,

    in which this Gospel Era lay; and prejudicing the minds of men against "the kingdom of heaven', The Second Administration of The Eternal Covenant of Grace in The Gospel Era,

    that those people might not embrace the doctrines of The Gospel, nor submit to its ordinances, of baptism and The Lord's Supper;

    The scribes and Pharisees, by their office, ought to have opened and explained the Scriptures,

    the prophecies of the Old Testament relating to the Messiah, and led the people into a knowledge of the mysteries of his kingdom,

    and encouraged them to enter into this new state of things, in The Gospel Era,

    which, according to the true intent of Scripture, was to take place, and in The Gospel Era, now did:

    but instead of this, they shut up the Scriptures,

    The scribes and Pharisees, took away the key of knowledge, and laid it aside; and darkened the Scriptures by their false glosses, and obliged the people to observe the traditions of the elders, and which they call , "an hedge for the law" (w); to which Beza thinks, the allusion is here, and by which men were shut up, and kept from the true knowledge both of law and Gospel:

    Gill: Matthew 23 Gill's Exposition, with my added comments placed in bold.

    The Pharisees, then as now, told people to trust the Law, to expect their 'Reward', and to believe what they say, over and over, even though The Bible Says nothing about what they
    'think'.

    You
    Will not Come into Me that you might have life.
     
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    Matthew 23:13:
    "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.

    Total Spiritual Inability is shown to be bogus because "people" could not be shut off if they had no ability to enter. Second, since these people were not allowed to go in, they were not being compelled by irresistible grace.

    Jesus says the kingdom of heaven can be shut off by people, Gill says they cannot. Go with scripture.

    Gill says the verse means the people shut off the preaching of the gospel. Here we have the very words of Christ made to no effect. Go with scripture.
     
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    Calvinist bunk
     
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