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***Mexican Swine Flu***

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Martin Luther, Apr 25, 2009.

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  1. tinytim

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    And you know that how?
     
  2. Crabtownboy

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    I hope you are wrong, but it is a distinct possibility. We have been fortunate that there has been of widespread killer flu since 1957. The 1918 pandemic was the largest that I know of and I hope and pray that it continues to hold the record.
     
  3. rbell

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    Any credible source to serve as basis for your allegations?
     
  4. tinytim

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    Yeah.. the boy "WHO" cried wolf has made it known....

    He has submitted reports to all the media outlets... and they have fallen for it.
     
  5. donnA

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    I'm glad the rest of the world is taking this more seriously then people on this board.
     
  6. Martin Luther

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    March, 1918 On March 4, 1918, dozens of World War I recruits in Camp Funston, Kansas, come down with a flu. For two or three days, they are miserable and bed-ridden but soon recover and are back on duty. The virulent flu races through the camp infecting almost 500 people, and killing 48 of them - a high but not abnormal mortality rate for flu in 1918. With millions of men mobilizing for the war effort, the epidemic quickly spreads to other army camps and then to cities around America. Public health officials in Philadelphia issue a bulletin about the flu but few people pay much attention. News of the war dominates the headlines and after a few weeks, the flu epidemic abates and most Americans believe the worst is over.

    April to August, 1918 Thousands of infected American troops head to exit ports on the east coast, and sail over to the fighting in Europe. When they land in France, the virus spreads across the continent, infecting hundreds of thousands of civilians and belligerents alike. Thousands die and battle plans are put on hold as hundreds of thousands of soldiers fall victim to the flu. The death rate is still considered normal for the time, but the flu does show a disturbing trend - half of those killed are healthy young adults between 20 and 45 years of age. The flu usually has little effect on the healthy. The belligerents squash news of the sickness so that the enemy will not find out their weakness. But Spain, neutral in the war, writes about the powerful flu, which is thereafter called the Spanish Flu. And then, in the latter part of August, 1918, somewhere in western France probably, the virus mutates and becomes highly toxic.

    April to August, 1918 The second wave of the virus hits Europe hard, and then feeds on the 1.5 million U.S. troops who have made the trip across the Atlantic. Troop and supply ships spread the virus. The new mutant flu surfaces almost simultaneously in three places. In Brest, France, the chief landing point for American troops, the first cases are reported on August 22. By Sept. 22, 370 American soldiers are dead. Ships leaving Europe bound for other ports bring the new virus with them. In Freetown, Sierra Leone, two-thirds of the native population gets the disease; 3 percent of the entire population is dead by September. And disturbing reports trickle out of Boston, Mass., in early September that thousands are coming down with the flu followed by severe pneumonia. And with thousands of troops massing to go to war, the virus has a perfect breeding environment.

    September, 1918 The new virus enters its most devastating phase from September to November. The flu spreads most quickly among soldiers and sailors, who are forced to live in close quarters during the war. By Sept. 23, some 20,000 U.S. soldiers are infected with the new flu. By Sept. 28, 31,000 American sailors are stricken. By early October, almost 2,000 U.S. sailors and 10,000 U.S. soldiers are dead. Authorities, finally recognizing they have an epidemic on their hands, delay then suspend planned troop call-ups to keep the virus from spreading further. But they are too late; the killing has already spread despite official efforts to contain the virus. The United States is not the only country to realize too late that it has an epidemic on its hands. Using fast and modern shipping and rail lines, the virus races to almost every country on earth.

    October, 1918 Ships docked in foreign harbors form beachheads for the virus, which quickly spreads into the interior of the major continents. The United States and Europe, with the most modern transportation systems, are overrun quickly. Signs appear in America urging people to avoid contact with the sick and to wear masks. But the warnings do little. Coffins are piled up on city streets to take away the dead. By the end of the epidemic, the virus has killed some 500,000 Americans. Americans, better fed and healthier than most other people on earth, is relatively lucky. The virus does most of its killing in poor and populous countries

    October, 1918 No country seems safe from the virus. Russia, which avoided the first outbreak, is hit when infected Allied troops invade Archangel to support White Russians fighting the communists. The epidemic decimates Russia but does its greatest damage in China and India, populous countries of poorly fed and impoverished people. Accurate numbers are impossible to find, but some estimates of the dead in India reach 10 million. Even distant Australia, which establishes a strict quarantine, is not spared - the flu eventually hits in 1919. And then, as suddenly as it appeared, the Spanish flu disappears - in its savage wake: 30 million dead

    The Spanish Flu virus was not isolated and preserved at the time of the outbreak and scientists believed it had been lost, then in 1997 a team from the USA recovered some of its genetic material. The material was extracted from a female victim whose body was buried in permafrost in Alaska and from samples taken in 1918 from two US soldiers who died in the pandemic. The US scientists reconstructed part of the genetic data (a gene sequence) of the virus and compared this with the gene sequences of other strains of influenza virus. However their analysis did not shed light on what triggered the pandemic or why it was so severe.

    In 2001, three researchers at the Australian National University's School of Botany and Zoology discovered that one of the 1918 Flu genes was a hybrid that was produced from parts of two other influenza viruses, in a process called "recombination".

    Their analysis indicated that this "gene splicing" occurred just before the 1918 pandemic and one of the two progenitors of the 1918 virus was an influenza strain that probably infected pigs. The results suggest that the outbreak was triggered by the recombination.

    "The recombination was within the gene that codes for the haemagglutinin protein of the virus. Changes in this protein are known to increase the virulence of the influenza," one researcher said. "Recombination has not been detected before within the genes of the virus. Now the possibility that current strains may recombine needs to be investigated as new recombinant viruses may pose a threat. We may have discovered part of the reason for the extreme virulence of the 1918 Spanish Flu virus."



    http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showpost.php?p=539998&postcount=11
     
  7. Revmitchell

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    Current medical capabilities make anything that happened in 1918 irrelevant. The swine flew is completely and easily curable.
     
  8. Martin Luther

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    There is no truth in that statement.
     
  9. Mexdeaf

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    I hope he is not trying to prophesy. I'd hate to see him stoned.

    Wait, maybe he already is! :laugh:

    (Sorry- terrible joke!!)
     
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    “This is very important: The disease is curable and we have the medicine for it,” Calderon said today.



    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ajQ2fE_qHCXE&refer=home

    "The fast-spreading bug is curable if treated quickly with antiviral medicine but no one is naturally immune to it and the World Health Organization has lifted its pandemic alert to phase 4, indicating the risk of a deadly global outbreak."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN27476506
     
  11. tinytim

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    Yes it is.. people that have it are getting better...

    No need to panic, just be vigilant in preventive maintenance.

    This too shall pass.

    And next yr, the media will promote another illness...

    (Maybe Mexdef already has it.. badjokeitis)
     
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    There is a medically approved procedure to cure the aforementioned condition.

    Remove the upper arm bone.







    (the humerus).





    :D
     
  13. rbell

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    Lots of wild claims, and no proof at all...
     
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    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...21638-78F4-4F82-83F8-B3E41BEB1071}&dist=msr_2

    Breaking news: Confirmed case in Michigan.

    So, we are not closing our borders. We will still import pork as well as vegetables grown in human waste Mexican soil for US consumption. We are told by politicians and the government that there is no connection, though, because the god of commerce has it's head intact.

    Carnival Cruise took the high road, though, and has ceased their stops to Mexico. China and the Philippines have banned Mexican pork.

    As the swine flu spreads, our pigs in the US will be affected, too.

    We will finish up the bacon and sausage in our freezer and then have a household ban on pork.
     
  15. LadyEagle

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    MODERATOR NOTE: Leaving this thread open past the 3-page limit due to the situation being fluid.

    LE :thumbs:
     
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    Can people catch swine flu from eating pork?

    No. Swine influenza viruses are not transmitted by food. You cannot get swine influenza from eating pork or pork products. Eating properly handled and cooked pork and pork products is safe. Cooking pork to an internal temperature of 160°F kills the swine flu virus as it does other bacteria and viruses.

    - http://warner.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=swineflu#b25ed6af-5161-44f1-9e5f-720ab24be045
     
  17. tinytim

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    Right, that is why China shouldn't ban our pork.
     
  19. tinytim

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    Here too.. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/28/white-house-asks-congress-billion-fight-swine-flu/
     
  20. Mexdeaf

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    So what's the cure for "Chickenlitteitis"- that's what our media seems to have.
     
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