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    Michael the archangel - The Character That Will Stand [KJB]

    This thread is a comprehensive study on Michael the archangel throughout the King James Bible, as well as pre and post reformational theological historical positions. Any portion may be commented on, or discussed.

    Here is the Table of Contents [for easier perusal]. Any part of this study [I am the author thereof] may be freely copied, in whole or in part, and distributed by any and or all means, so long as the following web link [w w w . p e a r l t r e e s . c o m / a w h n] is given in full at the beginning and ending of what is shared:

    www.pearltrees.com/awhn


    Michael the Archangel

    Table Of Contents:

    [00] Introduction

    [01] Locating the main texts on Michael the Archangel in The King James Bible

    [02] The basic definitions of the words “Michael” and “Archangel” according to the King James Bible

    [03] The word “angel” as defined and used throughout the whole of the King James Bible

    Section [03] also includes material about the life on the other unfallen worlds, and in Heaven and also includes the Subsection: The Nature of Angels, Christ in the Resurrection, and our own Translation or Resurrection

    [04]
    Archangels in the King James Bible and in the Spirit of Prophecy/The Testimony of Jesus

    [05] Michael the great prince of Daniel

    [06] The Two Princes

    [07] Revelation 12, An Unbreakable Chiastic Structure

    [08] The Great Controversy; Michael vs Dragon

    [09] The Comparisons of the “Angel of the LORD” throughout the King James Bible

    [09-A] The LORD descends, A Shout, A Voice, A Resurrection

    [09-B] Moses, Joshua, Acts, A Holy Person, Holy Ground, Shoes and Worship

    [09-C] “...but surely, as it is written, “No man has seen God...”, Right?”

    [09-D] The Angel in the Pillar of Fire/Cloud, God in the Pillar of Fire/Cloud

    [09-E] The Wonderful Name

    [09-F] The Redeeming “Angel”, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, God of Israel

    [09-G] “The LORD rebuke thee.” - with subsection Moses Resurrection

    [09-H] Those who wrestle with God, Those who wrestle the Angel, The New Name

    [09-I] The Person who sees, hears, blesses, multiplies, and who is always with us​

    [10] Questions and Answers; about Michael Archangel/Jesus Texts

    [10-A] Question 01: Did Michael need help in fighting against Satan who was interfering with the Kings of Persia in Daniel 10 KJB?

    [10-B] Question 02: Is not Gabriel the “angel of his presence”?

    [10-C] Question 03: Is the Son of God, Jesus, ever referred to as an “Angel” directly in the scripture, the King James Bible?

    [10-D] Question 04: How is it known that it was Michael/Jesus that Daniel saw in the passages of Daniel 10:5-9, 12:5-13 KJB?

    [10-E] Question 05: How do we know that the “messenger [angel] of the covenant” in Malachi 3:1 KJB is Jesus Christ?

    [10-F] Question 06: How can the Son of God – Jesus be Michael the archangel, since in Daniel 10:13 KJB, Michael is said to be “... one of the chief princes ...”?

    [10-G] Question 07: How can Jesus, who is JEHOVAH [E/I]mmanuel, be “Michael the archangel”, or “the angel of the LORD” since in Hebrews 1:1-14 KJB the passage says that Jesus is “so much better than the angels” [Hebrews 1:4 KJB], has “a more excellent name than they” [Hebrews 1:4 KJB] and all the “angels of God” are to “worship him [Jesus]” [Hebrews 1:6 KJB] because He is “the brightness of his [the Father's] glory, and the express image of his [the Father's] person” [Hebrews 1:3 KJB]?

    [10-H] Question 08: Are there not other persons in the King James Bible who have the name “Michael” or similar, and if “Michael the archangel” is truly the Uncreated Son of God, would it not be blasphemy for any other person, being created, to have the same name as He?

    [10-I] Question 09: If Jesus is Michael the archangel, how could Michael and his angels [Revelation 12:7-9 KJB] overcome by the blood of the Lamb in Revelation 12:7-11 KJB?​

    [11] Messengers of the LORD & the Reformation, along with various prominent Theologians, Commentators, Concordances, Dictionaries, Lexicons and others who teach that “Michael the archangel” is the Eternal Almighty Son of God, JEHOVAH [E/I]mmanuel - Jesus, and/or the “angel of the LORD”, the very highest messenger of the Father

    [12] The Plan of Redemption, Who is like unto God? Michael the archangel, who shall be able to stand with Him? Daniel 11:40-45, 12:1-3 KJB

    Appendices:

    [XX] Appendix 1 – The Epistles of Peter & Jude compared

    [XX] Appendix 2 – The Short Historical List of those who taught Jesus is Michael the archangel and/or angel of the LORD

    [XX] Appendix 3 – The Many Names And Titles Of The Son Of The Father – Jesus

    [XX] Appendix 4 – The Son of the Father, Jesus, who is JEHOVAH [E/I]mmanuel, the Eternal and great I AM, God manifest in the flesh

    [XX] Appendix 5 – The Cross throughout the Bible and in the Sanctuary

    [XX] Appendix 6 – Daniel & the Revelation compared

    [XX] Appendix 7 – Daniel 11:1-20 KJB, a work in progress​
     
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    [00] Introduction

    Michael the archangel.

    Who is like unto God?, the highest messenger of the Father? Does it matter or is it insignificant? What does the Bible teach on this?

    Who is this glorious personage that appears in the Old Testament in the prophecy of Daniel, and in the New Testament, in the Revelation of Jesus Christ?

    What is Michael's part in the plan of Redemption?

    What does Michael have to do with the people of God?

    What will happen when Michael stands up [Daniel 12:1 KJB] and what does it mean to us, and to the world?

    This present study will identify, according to the scripture, the King James Bible, the answers to these questions. Take up God's word, with serious and constant prayer, with confession and repenting of error and sin, earnestly studying, not resisting the Holy Spirit, but believing God, who will reward abundantly, and set one free with and in the Truth.

    For those who are not familiar with Bible study, you will not want to skip any sections, or jump ahead, but will need to read from this section onward, in chronological order.

    For those who are more familiar with Bible study may skip a section or two as desired, but please take the time to go back through each section skipped until completion of the whole.

    For those who already have a position on the subject, I would ask that you suspend that position and/or apriori, and consider the subject afresh and anew, as if you had never studied it before.

    There may be questions that some have, that will be answered herein.

    There may be questions that some have that are not answered herein, but that would not be because for lack of effort, or research, or an attempt to brush any concern aside, but simply due to the element of frail, feeble and fickle man, namely myself.

    I have tried to approach this subject from all points of scripture and also to answer the questions and/or objections that may come after such a study.

    If a question or objection is not herein fully represented [though I believe the heart of all objections are answered herein], please let me know, and I will be glad to consider it in the light of all scripture, and may even add it in any future revisions of this study.

    Before coming to the final conclusion, know, that it is written:

    Proverbs 18:13 KJB - He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

    2 Timothy 2:15 KJB - Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.​
     
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    This reeks of the doctrine that Michael is Jesus. Please forgive me if I accused you wrongly, but this is what I have gleaned from your posts.
     
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    Anyone may now access the Michael the archangel, the Character that will stand File [super file] here [it may be shared in full, but with the same stipulations as found in the OP]:

    Michael the archangel [superfile], the Character that will stand


    This file is approximately 1,223 pages long. Don't worry, the main subject is not that long, but the appendices take up some space in documentation.
     
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    Please fee free to continue reading, and studying. I will not worry about any accusations, only that the word of God and His doctrine are glorified. Feel free to Download the whole material and peruse it, and make any comments, questions etc from there. Let us all study [the KJB] to show ourselves approved ...
     
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    [01] Locating the main texts on Michael the Archangel in The King James Bible

    In this section, the direct and primary scriptural texts will be listed that reference Michael the Archangel by either the terms, “Michael”, “Michael the Archangel”, and/or “the archangel”. There are only 6 such texts in the King James Bible from Genesis to Revelation.

    There are only 3 Old Testament [OT] texts that directly name this Michael:

    Daniel 10:13 KJB - But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

    Daniel 10:21 KJB - But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

    Daniel 12:1 KJB - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.​

    There are only 2 New Testament [NT] texts that directly name this Michael:

    Jude 1:9 KJB - Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

    Revelation 12:7 KJB - And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,​

    There is only 1 other New Testament [NT] text that directly speaks of this personage, as “the archangel” as already found listed in Jude 1:9 KJB, as “Michael the Archangel”:

    1 Thessalonians 4:16 KJB - For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:​

    These are the direct and primary texts.
     
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    Angels are created beings, so if Jesus is Michael, he is a created being. Read Hebrews 1, with close attention to vss 5-8. That's heresy numero uno.

    Then you are conflating the KJV as the word, when it is a translation of the word of God, which was written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. That's heresy numero dos.

    Heretics can't have only one heresy. They're like Lay's potato chips, you can't just have one. :(
     
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    Did you download and read the section on angels? Not all "angels" are created. The word "angel" does not denote nature, but rather office/function.

    Go back to this thread and please download the whole material, and then let me know what you think.

    Michael the archangel - The Character That Will Stand [KJB]

    See sections:

    [03] The word “angel” as defined and used throughout the whole of the King James Bible

    Section [03] also includes material about the life on the other unfallen worlds, and in Heaven and also includes the Subsection: The Nature of Angels, Christ in the Resurrection, and our own Translation or Resurrection

    [04] Archangels in the King James Bible and in the Spirit of Prophecy/The Testimony of Jesus

    [10-C] Question 03: Is the Son of God, Jesus, ever referred to as an “Angel” directly in the scripture, the King James Bible?

    [10-E] Question 05: How do we know that the “messenger [angel] of the covenant” in Malachi 3:1 KJB is Jesus Christ?

    [10-G] Question 07: How can Jesus, who is JEHOVAH [E/I]mmanuel, be “Michael the archangel”, or “the angel of the LORD” since in Hebrews 1:1-14 KJB the passage says that Jesus is “so much better than the angels” [Hebrews 1:4 KJB], has “a more excellent name than they” [Hebrews 1:4 KJB] and all the “angels of God” are to “worship him [Jesus]” [Hebrews 1:6 KJB] because He is “the brightness of his [the Father's] glory, and the express image of his [the Father's] person” [Hebrews 1:3 KJB]?
    Even the Holy Spirit in scripture [KJB] is designated an "angel". See those sections.

    As for the KJB, please follow the link given in my profile page, and see the KJB vindicated section.
     
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    Did anyone utilize the time and opportunity to download the file, and look it over?

    I am truly interested in studied feedback, and am also interested in why present Baptists turn away from their historic (and reformational), and scripturally studied position, that Michael the archangel is Jesus Christ, eternal Son of the Father, and have now gone back and taken up Roman Catholicism's position, which is a denigration of the character of Jesus (for Satan always attacks His character in one form or another).

    Even the WTS, the Jehovah's Witness, organization, has repudiated half of the Reformation doctrine [which was studied prayerfully from scripture by those Godly men of the Reformation], and also denigrate Jesus Christ, in making him a created being.

    What do you, who have downloaded and considered the evidences therein, think of those prominent Baptists gone before, and their prayerfully studied exegesis of this subject?
     
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    I totally agree with that statement, and have seen it in fulfillment on numerous occasions.

    Did you view the sections as suggested, in answer to your sincere question?

    I asked myself all the hard questions, and asked myself about the same passages, and proofed the prayerfully studied responses through several trials by deep-rooted opponents.

    As stated, I am only interested in Truth. I follow where He leads.
     
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    If any want to truly win JW, show them this information, as they are ignorant of it.

    Why continue any further, allowing the JW, to rob us of a precious truth, fought hard for in the Reformation, when it can be used to show them their grievous error, Arianism, and reclaim what is rightfully ours, and set the precious Gem of this Truth back into its proper setting.

    Why allow the JW to beat people over the head, with the correct portion, in that Michael is Jesus, when if the whole Truth of the matter was taken up, in that Michael is Jesus (practically the whole of the Reformation taught it and from before) being the Eternal, Uncreated Creator, and Son of the Father, thus stripping them of their half-Romanized weapon, and turning around upon them, over throwing their error altogether.

    They would begin to rightly see the Deity of Jesus, in His always being the one like, the express image of, the Father, the highest messenger from the bosom of the Father's love to us-ward.
     
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    To identify Christ as a created being is heresy. But to identify Michael as Christ is not necessarily heresy if one insists that Michael is not created but is in fact the Word. I do not agree that Christ equals Michael, anymore than I accept all the Theophanies (or Christophanies) that many folks seem to find in the Old Testament. But I don't think any of them are heresies.

    John Gill, the learned 18th century Particular Baptist pastor and theologian, also identified Michael as Christ.

    Jude 1:9: "By whom is meant, not a created angel, but an eternal one, the Lord Jesus Christ; as appears from his name Michael, which signifies, "who is as God": and who is as God, or like unto him, but the Son of God, who is equal with God? and from his character as the archangel, or Prince of angels, for Christ is the head of all principality and power; and from what is elsewhere said of Michael, as that he is the great Prince, and on the side of the people of God, and to have angels under him, and at his command, ( Daniel 10:21 ) ( 12:1 ) ( Revelation 12:7 ) . So Philo the Jew F15 calls the most ancient Word, firstborn of God, the archangel; ..."

    On Daniel 10:21: "Christ the Prince of the kings of the earth, he was the Prince, Protector, and Guardian of the people of the Jews; he is the Angel that went before them in the wilderness, and guarded them in it, and guided them into the land of Canaan; he is the Angel of God's presence, that bore, carried, and saved them all the days of old, and was their King and their God, their Defender and Deliverer, still; he took their part, and was on their side; yea, he was on the side of, and took part with, them that were for them, the holy angels; and there was none but him that exerted his power, and strengthened Gabriel to act for them in "these things" relating to their peace and prosperity: or, "against these" F3, as it may be rendered; against the princes of Persia and Greece, the evil spirits that worked in these kingdoms, in the children of disobedience there; and had it not been for him, and the exertion of his mighty power, it would have been soon all over with the people of the Jews; as it would be now with the church of Christ, of which they were typical, but the Lord is on their side; Michael the Archangel, and his angels under him, fight for it, protect and defend it; and since he is for his people, who shall be against them? or to what purpose will an opposition be? the gates of hell cannot prevail against the church of God, the saints of the most High."

    Revelation 12:7: " ... it seems best to interpret it of Jesus Christ, who is equal with God, is his fellow, is one with the Father, and in whom the fulness of the Godhead dwells bodily: he is the Archangel, the first of the chief princes, the head of all principality and power, who is on the side of the Lord's people, pleads their cause, defends their persons, and saves them;"

    Again, I see no reason to insist that Michael is Christ, and certain sects seem to harp on it as a point of faith that sets them apart from others.
     
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    Christ Jesus is most definitely not a created Being (His body of flesh of mankind, was made), but is the "only begotten" and Eternal Son of the Father, even God manifest in the flesh, JEHOVAH Emmanuel.

    I had already included the commentary of John Gill, in section [11] Messengers of the LORD & Reformation, along with various prominent Theologians, Commentators, Concordances, Dictionaries, Lexicons and others ...

    I had also included a short list in section [XX] Appendix 2 - The Short Historical List of those who taught Jesus is Michael the archangel and/or angel of the LORD.

    Some take this subject (as others) of no, or little, consequence, but the Holy Spirit would lead us into all Truth, even leading into the same mind. Only truth can sanctify (John 17:17 KJB), and error cannot, ever.

    Since you have seen John Gill's exposition (not that he is the final authority, thank the LORD), and there is much evidence being given demonstrating most carefully that Jesus is Michael, I am curious, as to which point specifically, in all that which has been given, and in which yourself has now cited, would not satisfy this conclusion.

    There is only two conclusions, either Jesus is Michael, or he is not. Ought we not be able to come to the same praferfully studied conclusion, thus fulfilling Christ's own prayer?

    If Jesus is not Michael (let evidence be demonstrated), Roman Catholicism is correct in its teaching on this,

    If Jesus (Deity) is Michael (as I believe is most fully, prayerfully, and diligently demonstrated), then let us proclaim this truth with all fidelity to our great and loving Lord, in the face of those who would mock us for it.

    Are we ashamed of truth?

    Great light is shining upon us, and all light can only help us to understand God, in His glorious eternal character more fully.
     
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    Well, no. There is a reasonable conjecture, but no definitive proof. Good people can disagree. I understand you are following Ellen White here, but perfectly reasonable people can disagree or believe it's reasonable but not proven or even disagree. It does not rise to a an article of faith, except perhaps among the Adventists.
     
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    Again, whether one disagrees with another does not eliminate the only two options, Jesus is Michael or he is not. Only one is truth, prevarication or disagreement does not alter the fact that only one is true, the other not.

    I did the study independent of sister White, as I began as Roman Catholic. That she acknowledges the truth, and stands upon it, scripturally, and stands with the greatest minds of the reformation, proves her heart, unashamed of Jesus in all his character.

    I suppose there are many this day, which it is easier to say nothing, to choose neither side (which is choosing) as it was in Elijah's day (1 Kings 18:21 KJB), (Matthew 12:30 KJB). If only people, especially in leadership, would take a decided stand, how many more would take courage to do the same.

    I know that in the great Gospel net that there are many kinds of fish, but presently, many might be classed jellyfish, unless they show some backbone, sooner, rather than later.
     
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    Once Michael/Jesus stands again, probation will be closed, even for us, beginning with the church itself:

    Daniel 12:1 KJB - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.​

    even as it was in the days of the Jewish nation, as then, so shall it be again [Ecclesiastes 1:9, 3:15 KJB]:

    Acts 7:55 KJB - But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

    Acts 7:56 KJB - And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
    As then, so again:

    Luke 13:25 KJB - When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

    Revelation 22:11 KJB - He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.​
     
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    I'm interested that you believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is 'one of the chief princes.' Who do you think are the other chief princes along with Him?
     
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    There are several things:

    [1] He is the Chief Prince [ruler] of the forces of Good, while Satan is the chief [opposing] prince [ruler] of the forces of evil

    This is Chapter 6 of the study:

    [06] The Two Princes

    There are Two Main Princes [rulers] throughout the scriptures, the King James Bible.

    [1.] The Good [Jesus/Michael/[E/I]mmanuel/Lamb, etc], the True and Everlasting “Prince”; who is God, even the Son of the Father, uncreated Creator:

    Isaiah 9:6 KJB - “... the Prince of Peace ...”
    Daniel 8:11 KJB - “... the Prince of the Host ...”
    Daniel 8:25 KJB - “… the Prince of Princes ...”
    Daniel 9:25 KJB - “... Messiah the Prince ...”
    Daniel 10:13 KJB - “... Michael, one of the Chief Princes ...”
    Daniel 10:21 KJB - “... Michael your Prince ...”
    Daniel 11:22 KJB - “... the prince of the covenant ...”
    Daniel 12:1 KJB - “... Michael … the Great Prince ...”
    Acts 3:15 KJB - “... the Prince of Life ...”
    Acts 5:31 KJB - “... a Prince and a Saviour ...”
    Revelation 1:5 KJB - “... Jesus Christ … Prince of the Kings of the Earth ...”​

    Christ Jesus is also called other titles and names throughout the King James Bible, such as [non-exhaustive, for a more complete list, see [XX] Appendix 3 – The Many Names And Titles Of The Son Of The Father - Jesus]:

    Isaiah 8:8 KJB - “... O Immanuel ...”

    Isaiah 8:10 KJB - “... God is with us ...”

    Isaiah 8:14 KJB - “... And he shall be for a sanctuary; a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. ...”

    Isaiah 9:6 KJB - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    Side note: Having children [ie, Isaiah 8:16 KJB - “... my disciples ...”]:

    Isaiah 8:18 KJB - “... Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me ...”

    Hebrews 2:13 KJB - “... Behold I and the children which God hath given me ...”

    Hosea 11:1 KJB - When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.

    Matthew 2:2 KJB - “... King of the Jews ...”

    Matthew 2:15 KJB - “... that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.”

    Mark 1:1 KJB - “... Jesus Christ, the Son of God;”

    Luke 19:38 KJB - “... Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord ...”

    John 1:1 KJB - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    John 1:49 KJB - “... Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.”

    John 8:58 KJB - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

    John 19:19 KJB - “... JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.”

    Acts 10:36 KJB - “... Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)

    1 Corinthians 15:47 KJB - “... the second man is the Lord from heaven.”

    2 Thessalonians 3:16 KJB - “... the Lord of peace himself ...”

    1 Timothy 6:15 KJB - “… Only Potentate ...”

    Hebrews 1:12 KJB - “... thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail ...”

    Revelation 17:14 KJB - “... the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings ...”

    Revelation 19:16 KJB - “... KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS ...”​

    [2.] The Wicked [Satan/Dragon/Serpent/Devil/Lucifer, etc], the usurping “prince” who is a creature, created [as Lucifer] by the Son of the Father.

    Daniel 10:13 KJB - “... the prince of the kingdom of Persia ...”
    Daniel 10:20 KJB - “... the prince of Persia ...”
    Matthew 9:34 KJB - “... devils through the prince of the devils.”
    Matthew 12:24 KJB - “... cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.”
    Mark 3:22 KJB - “... Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devil.”
    John 12:31 KJB - “... the prince of this world ...”
    John 14:30 KJB - “... the prince of this world ...”
    John 16:11 KJB - “... the prince of this world is judged.”
    Romans 8:38 KJB - For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
    Ephesians 2:2 KJB - “... the prince of the power of the air ...”
    Ephesians 3:10 KJB - To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
    Ephesians 6:12 KJB - “... against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places] ...”
    Colossians 1:16 KJB - “... thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers ...”
    Colossians 2:15 KJB - “... principalities and powers ...”​

    Lucifer/Satan, has many other names and titles throughout the King James Bible, such as [non-exhaustive]:

    Judges 2:13 KJB - “... Baal [Lord] ...”

    John 8:44 KJB - “... father the devil ...”​

    Having children:

    Acts 13:10 KJB - “... child of the devil ...”

    Ephesians 2:2 KJB - “... children of disobedience ...”

    Ephesians 5:6 KJB - “... children of disobedience ...”

    Colossians 3:6 KJB - “... children of disobedience ...”

    2 Corinthians 4:4 KJB - “... the god of this world ...”

    Revelation 9:11 KJB - “... a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.”

    Revelation 12:9 KJB - “... the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan ...”​

    thus Jesus is "one" of the "chief princes" [as there are two main "princes", Christ and Satan].

    Yet, there is more to this, in Chapter 10, section F, of the study:

    [10-F] Question 06: How can the Son of God – Jesus be Michael the archangel, since in Daniel 10:13 KJB, Michael is said to be “... one of the chief princes ...”?

    You may download the whole study from the link provided already here - Michael the archangel - The Character That Will Stand [KJB]
     
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    Chapter 10, Section F, continuing response from Chapter 6:

    Answer 06:

    As already seen in section [06] The Two Princes, Jesus being designated as “Prince” in numerous places does not detract from His being always Eternal Deity – JEHOVAH Emmanuel, Uncreated Creator, and Son of the Father, etc., but rather identifies His ruling and commanding position in control over all the created forces of Heaven [the christian is also a citizen of Heaven, their names are written there; Daniel 7:10, 12:1; Philippians 4:3; Hebrews 12:23; Revelation 3:5, 21:27 KJB]:

    Revelation 19:11 KJB - And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

    Revelation 19:14 KJB - And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.​

    Additionally, it is witnessed that there are two primary “Princes”, or rulers in the great controversy, the war [Daniel 9:26 KJB] between Righteousness and Wickedness, namely, [1] Jesus/Michael over the forces of Good and Light, and [2] Satan/Dragon over the forces of Evil and Darkness, and thus it may be seen how Michael/Jesus truly is “... one of the chief princes...”:

    ... repeats Chapter 6 here with addition ...

    Additionally, in Joshua 5:14,15 KJB, we see the word “Captain”, which is translated from the same Hebrew word [H8269] “שׂר”, “śar”, being translated as “Prince” in Isaiah 9:6; Daniel 8:11,25, 10:13,21, 12:1 KJB:

    Joshua 5:13 KJB - And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?

    Joshua 5:14 KJB - And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?

    Joshua 5:15 KJB - And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.​

    ...


    Therefore it may be seen, that Gabriel refers to Michael/Jesus as “... one of the chief princes ...” so identifying Him as the ruler/captain/leader over the forces of Light, and referred to Satan as the other “prince” over the forces of Darkness who had “withstood” himself:

    Daniel 10:13 KJB - But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

    Daniel 10:20 KJB - Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.​

    Jesus/Michael and Satan/Dragon, are the “Princes” over their forces in the great controversy:

    Revelation 12:7 KJB - And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

    Revelation 12:8 KJB - And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

    Revelation 12:9 KJB - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.​

    Is there any further considerations about how Jesus/Michael is “... one of the chief princes ...”?

    Yes. Since the word that is translated as “prince” means one who rules [Exodus 2:14, etc. KJB] we can see how Jesus/Michael is yet “Prince of princes” [Daniel 8:25 KJB], even “Prince of the Kings of the Earth” [Revelation 1:5 KJB]. Who are these other “princes”?
     
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    [1] There are many High priests, and chief shepherds of the Temple, whom are called the “princes” [H8269] of the sanctuary, and Jesus is the High priest, the Chief Shepherd over them all, though He be one of many “brethren” [Hebrews 2:11 KJB]:

    Isaiah 43:28 KJB - Therefore I have profaned the princes of the sanctuary, and have given Jacob to the curse, and Israel to reproaches.

    Ezra 8:24 KJB - Then I separated twelve of the chief of the priests, Sherebiah, Hashabiah, and ten of their brethren with them,

    Ezra 8:29 KJB - Watch ye, and keep them, until ye weigh them before the chief of the priests and the Levites, and chief of the fathers of Israel, at Jerusalem, in the chambers of the house of the LORD.

    Ezra 10:5 KJB - Then arose Ezra, and made the chief priests, the Levites, and all Israel, to swear that they should do according to this word. And they sware.​

    Notice that Gabriel identifies this priestly aspect of Jesus/Michael, as the “great prince” who “stands for” the children of Israel, and intercedes for them before the Father and saves them from their troubles and enemies:

    Daniel 10:21 KJB - But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

    Daniel 12:1 KJB - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.​

    Jesus is the arch-shepherd, the chief shepherd, over all of the under [lesser] shepherds [pastors] of the flock:

    [1] G750:

    The Koine Greek: ἀρχιποίμην

    The Transliterated Koine Greek: archipoimēn

    This word is variously translated in the King James Bible as [according to the E-Sword King James Concordance]:

    Total KJB Occurrences: 2

    chief, 1

    1 Peter 5:4

    shepherd, 1

    1 Peter 5:4

    1 Peter 5:1 KJB - The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:

    1 Peter 5:2 KJB - Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

    1 Peter 5:3 KJB - Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.

    1 Peter 5:4 KJB - And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.​

    Compare:

    Ecclesiastes 12:11 KJB - The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.​

    Jesus is the High [arch] Priest over many other priests [which we have seen are already designated as 'angels' or messengers [Malachi 2:7 KJB], of which His people, are a nation of kings and priests [Exodus 19:5,6; Isaiah 61:6, 66:21; Revelation 1:6, 5:10, 20:6 KJB], a royal priesthood [1 Peter 2:9 KJB]:


    [2] G748:

    The Koine Greek: ἀρχιερατικός

    The Transliterated Koine Greek: archieratikos

    This word is variously translated in the King James Bible as [according to the E-Sword King James Concordance]:

    Total KJB Occurrences: 1

    priest, 1

    Acts 4:6

    Acts 4:6 KJB - And Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas, and John, and Alexander, and as many as were of the kindred of the high priest, were gathered together at Jerusalem.​

    [3] G749:

    The Koine Greek: ἀρχιερεύς

    The Transliterated Koine Greek: archiereus

    This word is variously translated in the King James Bible as [according to the E-Sword King James Concordance]:

    Total KJB Occurrences: 248

    priests, 68

    Matthew 2:4, 16:21, 20:18, 21:15,23,45, 26:3,14,47,59, 27:1,3,6,12,20,41,62, 28:11; Mark 8:31, 10:33, 11:18,27, 14:1,10,43,53,55, 15:1,3,10-11 (2),31; Luke 3:2, 9:22, 19:47, 20:1,19, 22:2,4,52,66, 23:4,10,13,23, 24:20; John 7:32,45, 11:47,57, 12:10, 18:3,35, 19:6,15,21; Acts 5:23-24 (2), 9:14,21, 19:14, 22:30, 25:14-15 (2), 26:10,12; Hebrews 7:27-28 (2)

    chief, 65

    Matthew 2:4, 16:21, 20:18, 21:15,23,45, 26:3,14,47,59, 27:1,3,6,12,20,41,62, 28:11; Mark 8:31, 10:33, 11:18,27, 14:1,10,43,53,55, 15:1,3,10-11 (2),31; Luke 9:22, 19:47, 20:1,19, 22:2,4,52,66, 23:4,10,13,23, 24:20; John 7:32,45, 11:47,57, 12:10, 18:3,35, 19:6,15,21; Acts 5:23-24 (2), 9:14,21, 19:14, 22:30, 25:14-15 (2), 26:10,12

    high, 59

    Matthew 26:3,51,57-58 (2),62-63 (2),65; Mark 2:26, 14:47,53-54 (2),60-61 (2),63,66; Luke 3:2, 22:50,54; John 11:49,51, 18:10,13,15-16 (3),19,22,24,26; Acts 4:6 (2), 5:17,21,27, 9:1 (2), 22:5, 23:2,4-5 (2), 25:1-2 (2); Hebrews 2:17, 3:1, 4:14-15 (2), 5:1,5,10, 6:20, 7:26-28 (3), 8:1,3, 9:7,11,25, 13:11

    priest, 52

    Matthew 26:3,57,62-63 (2),65; Mark 2:26, 14:47,53-54 (2),60-61 (2),63,66; Luke 22:50; John 11:49,51, 18:13,15-16 (3),19,22,24,26; Acts 4:6, 5:17,21,24,27, 9:1 (2), 22:5, 23:2,4-5 (2), 25:1-2 (2); Hebrews 2:17, 3:1, 4:14-15 (2), 5:1,5,10, 6:20, 7:26, 8:1,3, 9:7,11,25, 13:11

    priest’s, 4

    Matthew 26:51,58; Luke 22:54; John 18:10

    Hebrews 2:17 KJB - Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

    Hebrews 3:1 KJB - Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

    Hebrews 4:14 KJB - Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

    Hebrews 4:15 KJB - For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

    Hebrews 5:1 KJB - For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:

    Hebrews 5:5 KJB - So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

    Hebrews 5:10 KJB - Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

    Hebrews 6:20 KJB - Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

    Hebrews 7:26 KJB - For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

    Hebrews 7:27 KJB - Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

    Hebrews 7:28 KJB - For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

    Hebrews 8:1 KJB - Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

    Hebrews 8:3 KJB - For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.

    Hebrews 9:7 KJB - But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:

    Hebrews 9:11 KJB - But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

    Hebrews 9:25 KJB - Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

    Hebrews 13:11 KJB - For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.

    Hebrews 13:12 KJB - Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.​
     
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