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MN vote complete with Franken up 225 votes

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LeBuick

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Looks like the absentee ballot count is complete in MN with Franken ahead by 225 votes. I wonder will Coleman let the peoples voice be heard or will he keep this tied up in courts, reminiscent of the 2000 Gore loss...

http://www.startribune.com/politics...yP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUac8HEaDiaMDCinchO7DU

DFLer Al Franken won an impressive share Saturday of what may be the last ballots tallied in the U.S. Senate recount, boosting his unofficial lead over Sen. Norm Coleman to 225 votes heading into a Monday meeting where the state Canvassing Board will certify the final result of the race.

At least two things, however, still stand in the way of Franken becoming Minnesota's newest U.S. senator: the possibility of a ruling by the Minnesota Supreme Court that more wrongly rejected absentee ballots should be counted, and a legal contest that Coleman attorneys all but promised should Franken prevail.
 

EdSutton

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LeBuick said:
Looks like the absentee ballot count is complete in MN with Franken ahead by 225 votes. I wonder will Coleman let the peoples voice be heard or will he keep this tied up in courts, reminiscent of the 2000 Gore loss...

http://www.startribune.com/politics...yP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUac8HEaDiaMDCinchO7DU
Am I the only one who doesn't find it strange that in a state dominated by the Democratic/Farmer/Labor Party, somehow there managed to be a shift of several hundred votes in the margin, during the recounts and recanvassing, 'misplaced' ballots, disputed ballots, 'previously overlooked ballots', etc. with the overwhelming majority of the 'margin shift' somehow all shifting to the same side?

"Bosses" William Tweed (D- NYC) and George Cox (R- Cincinnati) from the 1800s and Richard J. Daley (D- Chicago) and Israel Durham (R- Philadelphia) from the 1900s would all surely be proud, indeed.

Incidentally, IMO, Al Franken is no more likely to ever be mistaken for the late Paul Simon, or Hubert H. Humphrey, than Norm Coleman is to ever be mistaken for the late Everett McKinley Dirksen, or Edward J. Thye, FTR.

Ed
 
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Revmitchell

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EdSutton said:
Am I the only one who doesn't find it strange that in a state dominated by the Democratic/Farmer/Labor Party, somehow there managed to be a shift of several hundred votes in the margin, during the recounts and recanvassing, 'misplaced' ballots, disputed ballots, 'previously overlooked ballots', etc. with the overwhelming majority of the 'margin shift' somehow all shifting to the same side?

"Bosses" William Tweed (D- NYC) and George Cox (R- Cincinnati) from the 1800s and Richard J. Daley (D- Chicago) and Israel Durham (R- Philadelphia) from the 1900s would surely be proud, indeed.

Ed


Nope!:thumbs:
 

LeBuick

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EdSutton said:
Am I the only one who doesn't find it strange that in a state dominated by the Democratic/Farmer/Labor Party, somehow there managed to be a shift of several hundred votes in the margin, during the recounts and recanvassing, 'misplaced' ballots, disputed ballots, 'previously overlooked ballots', etc. with the overwhelming majority of the 'margin shift' somehow all shifting to the same side?

"Bosses" William Tweed (D- NYC) and George Cox (R- Cincinnati) from the 1800s and Richard J. Daley (D- Chicago) and Israel Durham (R- Philadelphia) from the 1900s would surely be proud, indeed.

Ed

Considering Coleman barely got elected in 2002 and the Independent got 15%, my only surprise is the the Democratic candidate only won by 225 votes. It would be different if Coleman had of made an impact in his 6 years on the hill but I feel bad for MN if this is the best they have to offer.
 

KenH

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I think that when a general election is this close(especially when no candidate received a majority of the vote) that there should be a run off among the two top vote getters, such as was done for the Georgia U.S. Senate race in 2008.
 

LeBuick

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KenH said:
I think that when a general election is this close(especially when no candidate received a majority of the vote) that there should be a run off among the two top vote getters, such as was done for the Georgia U.S. Senate race in 2008.

Or they can just flip a coin, neither of these guys is better then the other... :laugh:

Seriously though, how long would it take to name the Senator if they had a recount? It's taken 2 months to count the general ballots.
 

EdSutton

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LeBuick said:
Considering Coleman barely got elected in 2002 and the Independent got 15%, my only surprise is the the Democratic candidate only won by 225 votes. It would be different if Coleman had of made an impact in his 6 years on the hill but I feel bad for MN if this is the best they have to offer.
I would note that you posted before I finished editing. You might want to read what you previously missed, through no fault of your own.

I assure you I am not a great fan of Norm Coleman, on any personal basis. In fact, I can think of very few current Senators that I would give anywhere close to unqualified support to, including those from my own state.

Ed
 

LeBuick

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EdSutton said:
I would note that you posted before I finished editing. You might want to read what you previously missed, through no fault of your own.

I assure you I am not a great fan of Norm Coleman, on any personal basis. In fact, I can think of very few current Senators that I would give anywhere close to unqualified support to, including those from my own state.

Ed

I like McCain as a Senator because he votes he own conscience and not the party line. His only stain was the savings and loan scandal.
 

sag38

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Wow, I hope those who voted for Franken are proud of themselves. If this is the best that Minnesota can do then they deserve what they are going to get. What a sad day for our country when someone like this elected (and I say this lightly due to the obvious bias of the recount) to the U.S. Senate.
 
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rbell

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LeBuick said:
Or they can just flip a coin, neither of these guys is better then the other... :laugh:

Seriously though, how long would it take to name the Senator if they had a recount? It's taken 2 months to count the general ballots.

Come on. Coleman's no saint, but you're smoking something if you think he's anywhere in Franken's category.

Can we give Minnesota to someone else? Never mind, I just realize who our state has elected in years past...
 

dragonfly

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rbell said:
Come on. Coleman's no saint, but you're smoking something if you think he's anywhere in Franken's category.

Can we give Minnesota to someone else? Never mind, I just realize who our state has elected in years past...

What exactly makes Franken unfit to serve in the U.S. Senate?
 

EdSutton

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EdSutton said:
Am I the only one who doesn't find it strange that in a state dominated by the Democratic/Farmer/Labor Party, somehow there managed to be a shift of several hundred votes in the margin, during the recounts and recanvassing, 'misplaced' ballots, disputed ballots, 'previously overlooked ballots', etc. with the overwhelming majority of the 'margin shift' somehow all shifting to the same side?

"Bosses" William Tweed (D- NYC) and George Cox (R- Cincinnati) from the 1800s and Richard J. Daley (D- Chicago) and Israel Durham (R- Philadelphia) from the 1900s would all surely be proud, indeed.

Incidentally, IMO, Al Franken is no more likely to ever be mistaken for the late Paul Simon, or Hubert H. Humphrey, than Norm Coleman is to ever be mistaken for the late Everett McKinley Dirksen, or Edward J. Thye, FTR.

Ed
"Final" margin "shift" of almost 1000 votes??

Strange indeed. :rolleyes:

At least living in KY, we see our strange elections bought "fair and square"!

For I can assure you, we have some of the most faithful electorate that money can buy. :thumbs:

Ed
 
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carpro

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EdSutton said:
"Final" margin "shift" of almost 1000 votes??

Strange indeed. :rolleyes:


Ed

It's called cheating.

It looks like democrats have stolen another election.
 

rbell

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dragonfly said:
What exactly makes Franken unfit to serve in the U.S. Senate?

Morally? You're kidding, right?

The dude wrote some of the vilest, most perverse garbage to "Playboy."

He cheated on his taxes.

He's filthy.

OVERVIEW

I could go on, but it's clear...

Constitutionally, I'm not sure but what he was given a much longer leash for his tax evasion than you or I ever would have been...so I don't think legally that he should be allowed to run. Morally...there's no way.
 

LeBuick

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carpro said:
It's called cheating.

It looks like democrats have stolen another election.

It's cheating when it's in the Liberal state of MN but it's fair when it's in the red state of FL. I see said the blind man...
 
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