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"Monster" Energy Drink Is Satanic?

Sapper Woody

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I haven't watched the video. But if it's the one I'm thinking of, that guy's an idiot, looking for Satan in every corner. The video I am thinking of portrays the claw marks as the Greek or Hebrew number "6", hence "666". Look at his other videos. He retains no credibility.
 

CatMommy

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Bro. Curtis

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I think I'm actually stupider now.

Besides the spelling errors I saw, and the eastern-techno-musical background, the judgement at the end of why people drink it is pretty boastful.

I think the video is retarded.

Can we know what you think ?
 

CatMommy

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It's the marketing dear. Not the drink. The woman in the video elaborates on this.

Music can be satanic. How is it that marketing can't be? Beyonce', "idolized" by impressionable children and even adults, admits to being demon possessed when on stage performing.
The demon, Sasha Fierce as it called itself and told her its name, has occupied Beyonce' for so long that it deforms her face when it is inside her on stage. She, as she's said in interviews, goes somewhere else and is watching herself on stage while Sasha is inside her.
The deforming of Beyonce' by this occupying spirit is so powerful that Beyonce' , and this is published also, has staff who have recalled public photo's of her in concert once it comes to their attention those licensed images don't show her in the best light.
The demon is so near the surface of her skin that she's almost unrecognizable. This is something Beyonce' realizes only after Sasha has left and Beyonce' see's herself in concert after.

Nicky Minaj is possessed/inhabited constantly. Unlike Beyonce's demon who comes in only in concert. Nicki's demon is named "Roman". And he is a violent little boy who was conjured up and put into her in a ritual.

So what? Do we say Satan doesn't enter music? Or performers?
Do we say Satan doesn't occupy marketing? So how can we say a Satanic message isn't being promoted in packaging of an energy drink? That is designed to give an instant high, a slow crash, and thus the need in some to restore that high by drinking "Monster" again?
Depleting the body temple that is God's house. While fattening the coffers of Mammon.
 

InTheLight

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I would not take it so lightly. I would not put it past the manufacturer of Monster energy drinks to put a little tribute to Satan on their packaging along with other irreverent material.

But to think the Devil is somehow increasing his influence by having people drink this stuff while ignorant of its packaging and marketing heritage is probably a stretch.
 

CatMommy

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It doesn't have to be the Devil himself. The marketing, the message to impressionable minds, can be perpetrated by those who are in league with the very meaning and spirit of Satan.
What is that?
The adversary of righteousness. The opponent of morality, decency, goodness. The antithesis of all that is promoted in the name of God.
Those who exploit the adversarial symbols and legends. 666, and so on, are promoting that message, and thus that energy that is the influence of the lord of this world.

Just as Christians crosses, hymns, aloud prayers, churches, steeples, send a message across the world, so too does the adversaries symbols and icons.

For goodness sake, America witnessed the establishment of the first public temple to Satan in the late 60's. The Church of Satan. And they published a Bible.
CoS is atheist. Hedonistic and carnal in nature. They exploit the Satanic imagery for their benefit and to avow opposition to what they call 'white lighters' and the faith of the righteous.

Do we think sending subliminal messages in marketing, in movies, in music, doesn't happen? And have an influence on the minds of the consumer?
I think that's what this woman in the video is hoping to communicate. That even something that seems as innocuous as an energy drink, if you look at the can and the container boxes that hold the product in packs of 6 or 12 or even more probably, send a message.

Ephesians 2:2- Satan, ruler of the kingdom of the air, the intellect. Satan is a spirit.
 

InTheLight

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Just as Christians crosses, hymns, aloud prayers, churches, steeples, send a message across the world, so too does the adversaries symbols and icons.

But people know the meaning of these symbols and icons. And these symbols in and of themselves do not influence lost people to come to Jesus. Similarly, satanic symbols do not influence people to be lost, they're already lost. It's the default condition of humanity. Not only that, but even if the monster claw mark on the can of Monster energy drink is Hebrew for 666, nobody who consumes the product knows this. Therefore they are not expanding the devil's influence or kingdom.


For goodness sake, America witnessed the establishment of the first public temple to Satan in the late 60's. The Church of Satan. And they published a Bible.

That is an overt action that everyone can plainly see for what it is.

Do we think sending subliminal messages in marketing, in movies, in music, doesn't happen?

Sure does.

And have an influence on the minds of the consumer?

Yes, to buy more product. Not become Satan worshipers.

Ephesians 2:2- Satan, ruler of the kingdom of the air, the intellect. Satan is a spirit.

Satan walks about like a roaring lion, that doesn't seem like a spirit thing to me.
 

CatMommy

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But people know the meaning of these symbols and icons. And these symbols in and of themselves do not influence lost people to come to Jesus. Similarly, satanic symbols do not influence people to be lost, they're already lost. It's the default condition of humanity. Not only that, but even if the monster claw mark on the can of Monster energy drink is Hebrew for 666, nobody who consumes the product knows this. Therefore they are not expanding the devil's influence or kingdom.
Do they have to know that for a spirit to have influence on the open unwitting mind? If we're all fallen from the start what better way to exploit the lost than to entice their lost spirit with symbols that call them forth?
Have you ever looked at the Monster Energy home page?

They are even on Facebook.






That is an overt action that everyone can plainly see for what it is.
Was an overt action. We're talking about the late 60's here when the counterculture was in an upsurge. And Anton LaVey, (aka/legal name Howard Levy), was keen on exploiting that fringe group to his benefit.
He died impoverished. His famed "black house" in shambles, it's now demolished for having been a condemned property after he died in a Catholic hospital of pulmonary edema.


Sure does.
So drink products are outside the scope?


Yes, to buy more product. Not become Satan worshipers.
One doesn't have to become a Satan worshiper to exploit their carnal nature through subtle influences of the fallen spirit.



Satan walks about like a roaring lion, that doesn't seem like a spirit thing to me.
So you're looking for a literal lion?
 

InTheLight

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Do they have to know that for a spirit to have influence on the open unwitting mind?

Yes, I believe they do need to know. They have to willingly participate in it. They are already condemned to Hell, why would the devil need to influence them any further? If they want to expand Satan's influence they need to know they are doing it.

If we're all fallen from the start what better way to exploit the lost than to entice their lost spirit with symbols that call them forth?

Call them forth to....what?

So drink products are outside the scope?

Of course not.


One doesn't have to become a Satan worshiper to exploit their carnal nature through subtle influences of the fallen spirit.

Again, they are already carnal, lost, on their way to Hell. How much more can they be exploited? I suppose you could say, as Satan's emissaries. OK, then they need to know about the symbols on the packaging.

So you're looking for a literal lion?

Of course not. But we know from the Bible that Satan takes physical form.
 

JonC

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I would not take it so lightly. I would not put it past the manufacturer of Monster energy drinks to put a little tribute to Satan on their packaging along with other irreverent material.

But to think the Devil is somehow increasing his influence by having people drink this stuff while ignorant of its packaging and marketing heritage is probably a stretch.

:thumbsup: I agree. But for the energy drink...even without the questionable satanic references....the marketing is certainly anti-Christian (I'm taking for granted the writings on the can and box are accurate...I don't drink energy drinks).

The "M" could be a drawing of claw marks to make an "M" (which is what I thought it was). The cross...well, to say it is upside down when drinking it is kinda silly. I have a cross tattoo (young and dumb) and when I stand on my head it's upside down as well.

That said, given what is on the product, well...it would be no stretch at all to have them to have satanic symbolism for some to find. We shrug it off...just as we have for generations about the influence of music and visual media....but looking back it is hard to deny that we live in a society that has been desensitized by media (to include marketing). But I don't really know that I'd go with it being "satanic."
 
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CatMommy

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Yes, I believe they do need to know. They have to willingly participate in it. They are already condemned to Hell, why would the devil need to influence them any further? If they want to expand Satan's influence they need to know they are doing it.
Why do they need to know they're doing it?
How many people in the world don't even believe in God? Or Jesus? Or think sin, soul, redemption, heaven, hell, is real?
Does that mean they're OK? They 'don't know'? So they can't 'participate' in their own damnation?





Call them forth to....what?
Remain in their fallen nature.


Of course not.
That's not what you implied earlier.




Again, they are already carnal, lost, on their way to Hell. How much more can they be exploited? I suppose you could say, as Satan's emissaries. OK, then they need to know about the symbols on the packaging.
They don't need to know for the spirit to have an affect.


Of course not. But we know from the Bible that Satan takes physical form.
Yes. And yet what is he first? Spirit.
He can take physical form when he inspires people to act in his name and for his purpose. Hence how he devours souls. One of the ways of course.

Fallen spirits, carnal nature, gravitates to the vibration of their own. That's how spirit influence works.

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CatMommy

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Business Ethics Case Analyses
Monster Energy: Weak Restrictions and Caffeine Addiction (January 4, 2013)



Based on Paper By Ryan Critelli

Monster Beverage Corporation is one of the worlds leading beverage suppliers around the world today. Hansen Natural Corporation launched the Monster brand beverage in 2002 and instantly it was seen plastered all over billboards and signs. Their main way of advertising is through sports which usually are extreme such as motocross, skateboarding, skiing and many others. (Continues)

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webdog

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This is silly. First, the number of the beast is not 666 (Vav Vav Vav). It is six hundred sixty and six (Samech Resh Tav Vav). Given the very first thing about this video is wrong, the other "satanic" things pointed out is silly. I will agree with her that the language on the packaging is offensive, but I've heard similar language from Mark Driscoll.
I have a cross tattoo on my shoulder. Should I avoid any overhead exercises to avoid "the appearance of evil"?
 

Sapper Woody

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This is silly. First, the number of the beast is not 666 (Vav Vav Vav). It is six hundred sixty and six (Samech Resh Tav Vav). Given the very first thing about this video is wrong, the other "satanic" things pointed out is silly. I will agree with her that the language on the packaging is offensive, but I've heard similar language from Mark Driscoll.
I have a cross tattoo on my shoulder. Should I avoid any overhead exercises to avoid "the appearance of evil"?

Come to think of it, there was a cross on a coffee mug I used to have. I guess I should never have let my cup get less than half full, or I'd be practicing witchcraft by draining my coffee.

As per language, they are obviously not a christian company. Why expect them to act like one. And the "BFC" is only on one can, their biggest can. Not that that's right, but she makes it out as if it's on all their products.

Edited to add: those who look for a conspiracy will find it.
 
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